Episode Transcript
[00:00:00] Speaker A: Foreign.
[00:00:04] Speaker B: Welcome to the Canadian Basketball show, your go to spot for the latest news stories and analysis on Canadian basketball. I'm your host, Lee Ben Osman. We're out here in Augusta, Georgia for Peach Jam, one of the most prestigious grassroots basketball tournaments in North America held by Nike. And I'm joined by a very familiar person that is competing this week. And just a month ago, he made history, leading Canada to its first gold medal at the FIBA U18America Cup. He's risen up ESPN's rankings. It's Mississauga's own Javion Tindale. How you doing, brother?
[00:00:44] Speaker A: I'm good, I'm good.
[00:00:45] Speaker B: My guy. What's the last month been like for you? I feel like your life has kind of changed. Has it?
[00:00:52] Speaker A: Yeah, it's been crazy from the time I saw you before Team Canada, you know, I don't think anyone expected that to happen.
[00:01:00] Speaker B: I didn't. I'll be honest with you.
[00:01:01] Speaker A: I mean, I had a feeling, you know, we had a chance to win, but, you know, it. The way it happened was, like, just surreal. So, you know, my life changed, you know, drastically, you know, recruitment.
You know, I was supposed to commit.
[00:01:20] Speaker B: Just when were you planning to commit? Was there, like, a set date?
[00:01:23] Speaker A: It was last session. There wasn't a set date. I was just planning on doing it in Vegas. I was just going to do it in Vegas because, like, you know, last EYBL session end out with a bang and then go into Peace Jam and have that, like, you know, committed. You know, like, it would just. It would just look good for the My name just buzz around the school and just, you know, but, you know, I'm glad I didn't because, you know, now, you know, recruitment's, you know, going up.
[00:01:47] Speaker B: When did you realize, like, I can't commit. Like, this is. I got to wait this out.
[00:01:52] Speaker A: After, after the FIBA U18, after we won the next day, just the amount of schools that were, you know, in contact.
[00:01:59] Speaker B: Can you give us a range? Like, what did that look like?
[00:02:03] Speaker A: Like, high majors. I'm talking like, NC, LSU, Mississippi State. Like, I'm talking about SEC, ACC school. So from then it was like, I kind of can't even. I don't want to really, you know, just commit and just stop those connections just in case because, you know, there's still a lot of high school basketball to play left. So now I'm planning on committing in November.
That's the set time. I know I'm gonna come in November. Just like, Miles. Miles come in November. November 16th. So probably planning on committing in November and after that.
[00:02:40] Speaker B: Yeah, you were very adamant. I feel like heading into that tournament, like, we got a chance to win gold, you know?
[00:02:47] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:02:47] Speaker B: I was kind of like, okay, there's potential.
But what I was most excited about. Cause you guys had a bunch of dogs on that team. I felt like, you know, and everyone fit the role. Everyone did something that was unique. You handled the ball. You did your thing.
Was there a moment in the tournament, a game where you were like, hey, you guys are slapping teams by like 30, 40, 50 throughout the entire tournament.
[00:03:12] Speaker A: Was there a moment where it hit
[00:03:13] Speaker B: you like, hey, I feel like we can win this?
[00:03:15] Speaker A: Yeah, definitely. I think. Well, it wasn't even in the tournament. I felt like from the training camp, you know, just seeing coach Charles, his, like, his attitude about just being tough and just.
Just listening to coach Charles, I mean, he really was passionate about the game. So him, you know, talking about not, we're not going to get out tough. We're not going to, you know, be the Canadian team that we, quote, unquote, always are. The soft guys, the nice guys, most skilled, but never no heart, no grit. From then, it was just like, yeah, we have a real chance because we all had the talent. We knew we had the talent. It's just about the toughness and the coaching. So from there. And also I felt like the last game, the last game I played, the semifinals, I think it was against Puerto Rico. Yeah, I knew we were going to win the next game because it was like, I just knew I needed to perform. I needed to show up in order for our team to win. We had everything we needed. I just needed to show up that day, and, you know, all it took is one great day out of me and we won.
[00:04:18] Speaker B: What was the relationship like with Charles? Because I feel like Charles, I kind of see him kind of like you in a way. Underdog, kind of like coming up the journey and like, finally getting his opportunity, then showcasing. What was that, like, where it's like, he kind of let you run the show, do your thing.
[00:04:31] Speaker A: You know, me and Charles have a really, really weird relationship.
[00:04:34] Speaker B: I.
[00:04:35] Speaker A: Well, first, he's actually.
I'm not sure if, you know, but my mom lives in Alliston, Ontario, and it's like, near Barrie. And what's crazy is, before I knew this, he went to high school in Allison, and my sister.
My sister went to high school. And I was supposed to go to his high school if I didn't go to royal crown, obviously, but I was supposed to go. That was my, like, you Know how you have a home school? Yeah, that was my home high school. So I was supposed to go there and I didn't know that he graduated from there. I think 2003, he said 2003 he graduated from that. My home high school. So when I found that out, it was like, oh, okay now. Yeah, but obviously we never liked each other. Royal crown and for area always had beef.
[00:05:15] Speaker B: What was that? What was those rivalries because you were still young coming up during those times.
[00:05:18] Speaker A: I just hated them.
I didn't like Fia because one, I just thought their gym was bad. I thought the way they ran their program was bad. I just didn't like anything about them. I didn't like Ishaan guarding him. I know I like Ishan off the court, but I didn't like how he played and how they played with man
[00:05:34] Speaker B: coming off curl down.
[00:05:35] Speaker A: Yeah, it was just, it was annoying to me because I would have to chase the screens and then Mario setting illegal screens and. Yeah. So I just didn't like them in general. I just didn't. Even their B team, the quote unquote B team, we lost a B team by 30. But I just didn't like them in general and even their girls, I just didn't like it. So Charles being the head coach of that program and you know, playing against him the whole year, losing and then winning and losing, it was just like, you know, I just don't like him. But after that, my 15 new year, like I was telling you, I was 14.
They had on their 17 year team, Charles was the head coach. They had Will Riley.
[00:06:14] Speaker B: You play?
[00:06:15] Speaker A: Yeah, Uplay. They had Will Riley, Tristan Beckford, Spencer Aarons.
[00:06:19] Speaker B: Will Riley's final year, I think. Right?
[00:06:20] Speaker A: Yeah. This is when he was, this is before. Everyone kind of knew, but they were like catching on. So.
Yeah, Will Riley, Spencer Onyx, they had a lot of guys. So one, one night I was at my grandma's in Mississauga and I got a call from coach Charles himself. I don't have his number. I don't know. I'm. I'm wondering why is he calling me? Because I just lost him and he's on social media. Yeah. And I just lost him like a month before or something because it was, you know how eyb was like pretty quick turn around. So I lost him like a month before. I'm like, I'm like, yes, coach. Like, you know, like, what do you want? What do you want? You know, so he was like, you know, we want, we want you to come play with you Play. This is. This is on a Thursday. They leave Friday to Memphis. First session. So he was like, we need you to come play 17U with us for this first session. And I was like, you were how old? I was 14, and I was playing 17U. So I was like, why not? Like, why would I not go? I mean, first EYBL experience, might as well go now, you know, get a. Get my feet wet, Right? So I went. And he was a coach, and I just, like, saw the passion he played with or he coached with, and it was just like, from there, I was like, yeah, like, he's serious. Like, he really, really wants win every game. So from then, I just gained a lot more respect for him, you know, as, like, a coach. Like, even if I'm on the other side, like, I would never, like, disrespect him any way, because I just know he's. He's all about winning. He would do anything it takes to win. So.
Yeah. And then we ended up reuniting the team. Canada, obviously.
And.
Yeah, what was that?
[00:07:58] Speaker B: Like, the team gets put together, everyone's kind of filling their roles.
What's the mindset going into that game against USA? No. 1. USA has won this tournament for the last, what, seven straight times?
[00:08:10] Speaker A: Yeah. So for me, I wasn't nervous. I was really nervous for the other games, because the other games, you don't know who could stun you. Right. Those are the embarrassing ones. You know, going into usa, we have nothing to lose. We knew we had a chance, but we have nothing to lose. If they won, we weren't going to be like, ah, man.
Like, damn, we're the. We weren't the favorites. We were always underdog. So it was just like, all right, let's just upset these guys. Like, I wasn't nervous. I was really excited. I was like, if you're on the bench, like, it was really crazy because I was counting myself down from the fourth quarter. Like, I was, like, saying, nine minutes to represent your country.
Five minutes to represent your country. Like, in the timeouts, like, I was literally saying it to myself because it was like, okay, like, I'm looking at the score. We're not. We're not with, like, we're not that far. Like, we were. We probably were winning. And I was just making sure every possession mattered. It was just, like, really, really serious.
[00:09:04] Speaker B: Yeah.
What was the atmosphere like? Cause I felt like watching it from, like, YouTube, watching the game. I was like, this has got to be one of the coolest atmospheres. And it felt like at one point, Correct me if I'm wrong, like, Mexico became like a Canada crowd and they
[00:09:21] Speaker A: were, they were rooting for you guys
[00:09:22] Speaker B: because they know, like, what this moment would have meant. Because USA has come and won a lot of these underage tournaments. Like, what was that like when the crowd.
[00:09:30] Speaker A: Tell me about that atmosphere, it was crazy.
First, you know, every other game, I don't think our game was packed at all. Every USA game, the game was packed.
So our game, right? We get there, we're like, wow. Like, there is. You see North Carolina on the side, you're seeing Matt Barnes on the side, you're seeing a lot of guys on the sidelines. And I'm like, yo, like, this is crazy. But obviously I played in a national championship game before and I kind of like felt that feeling. So I, I always remind myself, like, I've played in bigger, bigger things. But that was really. I just, just, you know, just to not put pressure on myself, make myself nervous. So I was like, wow. Like, you know, and I felt great. I felt great. I was dealing with like, sickness. Oh, yeah, Yeah, I was dealing with sickness, but I felt great going into the night. And I was just telling myself to stay composed. Like, they're at the end, they were chanting mvp. Yeah. And I was just like, you gotta win the game in order to get the mvp. So I wasn't even thinking about the mvp. I was just like, just don't play into it. Don't play into it because at that time, we're losing, we're down three. I remember that. I was like, don't even play into it because you can't win MVP without winning the game. So I was just keeping myself level headed. Even. Like when Deng hit the three and you saw him showing a lot of
[00:10:47] Speaker B: emotion, what was that moment like when you saw him hit that?
[00:10:50] Speaker A: I was like, yes. But he was yelling and I was like, yo, you didn't win. Let's just save your energy because I'm going to need you. Even I don't know if you saw. When I passed it to Deng and he dunked it, I couldn't even celebrate because I just wanted to get back and play defense.
[00:11:05] Speaker B: So
[00:11:08] Speaker A: it was loud. Like they were chanting Canada.
Like, I think everyone wanted USA to lose and I'm happy they did.
[00:11:16] Speaker B: Seven guys that are going D1 right now, what did it say? Just about like what we are as a country. That team, specifically what you guys showed you were capable of beating seven guys. And Canada just has one guy that's going D1 this year from that Roster, I think.
[00:11:33] Speaker A: Well, actually, I think their whole team. Their whole team is definitely going division 100%.
[00:11:38] Speaker B: But I'm saying this year, seven guys.
[00:11:39] Speaker A: Yeah. Going to college. I mean, it shows that, like, basketball is basketball. At the end of the day, like, you could have guys going to college. You could have high school guys. You could have.
If you're connected, you're connected. The difference between us and that team, they weren't connected. I feel like their coaching staff, they were. They were put on a.
They didn't have a long leash. We had a long leash. We knew our guys. We knew what our guys were capable of.
They didn't. They just were playing. Like, they were literally just playing. We knew it. Like, Max. I knew Max was around the room every, every time. I knew everyone knew I was going to be the ball handler. I knew dang was going to slash, hit threes.
Consistently hit threes. I knew gotten was going to run hard.
I knew. I knew everyone was going to do their thing. They didn't have people that were going to do the thing. They're all just ISO players. And like, yeah, we were just more connected. And I just knew. I just knew. I felt it. I felt we're going to win.
[00:12:38] Speaker B: Yeah. Built a team. I feel like, built a team.
What was.
Who. Maybe. Who was the player that you were most impressed with? Maybe, like, you saw growth and you're like, wow. Maybe from training camp to, like, the big moments, you're like, this person showed out for us. And I'm really proud they got their moment there.
[00:12:54] Speaker A: Lyris for sure. Lyris. I don't. Obviously, I lost him.
Chipotle. Yeah, I lost him, Chipotle and us scholastics, but I didn't know he played like that. Like, he plays hard. Offensive rebound. He's getting it.
[00:13:11] Speaker B: I think he's underrated in the asshole.
[00:13:12] Speaker A: Like, no one understands how much I love playing with him. Like, that's one player I would want to play with. Like, again, obviously, Max and Tang. But that guy, like, he was guarding everybody.
He didn't get tired even through the elevation. That was like, one of the biggest things. The first game. He was guarding 94ft and making threes. Like, he was being a real three and D. So I was like, okay, okay, we're serious. So, yeah, Lyris for sure. He's definitely, like, stunned me a lot.
[00:13:41] Speaker B: Yeah, I feel like he grew a lot.
Game ends. You were on the scores table. Tell me about that moment. I think you took your jersey off, showing it to the crowd. Describe that moment what made you even want to run out to the score table? Because I feel like that's one of, like. I feel like one of the greatest moments we've seen, you know?
[00:13:58] Speaker A: Well, first I was glad he didn't make the shot.
He got. I think it was Quentin Coleman. He's at Illinois. So he. He had the ball, and I was in front of him, and he shot it. And I'm just looking. I'm like, there's no a. If he made it, I would have probably drop to my knees, but I'm like, there's no way he's gonna make it. So I see the whole thing in slow motion. I see it, and it air balls, and I'm like. And then all I hear is beee.
And I look around.
Oh, my gosh, we won.
So then I throw up. I took off my jersey first instance. Ran around whipping the jersey because I'm like, yo, like, how I supposed to celebrate? Like, I don't want to just run into everyone. Like, I'm just running around like. Like. Like a kid. And then Max, we get to the circle. Max is like, yo, jump on the scores table. I wasn't planning on no celebration. He's like, yo. He taps me. He's like, yo. He's pointing at it. He's like, yo, jump at the scores table.
So I'm like. I'm like, all right, let's do it. So I jump on the scores table, right? They help me up, and then I'm just looking around. They're all like, ah.
So now I show the Canada. Of course. Hats. Show the Canada for everyone.
I was just screaming. I was just yelling. Like it was. It was like movie type. Like, it was crazy.
[00:15:18] Speaker B: So. Yeah, I think they're also chanting your name.
[00:15:22] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:15:22] Speaker B: Mvp. What was that like? Would you describe that as, like, one of your. Your favorite moments in basketball?
[00:15:27] Speaker A: Yeah, I got goosebumps. Like, I really, like, I try to not let it get to me in the game, but after the game, like, it was really, really, like, I did it. Like, I couldn't even believe. I didn't know if I was gonna win that MVP or not. But I just felt like. Like, just for you, you see people. You see NBA players that get mvp. The guys are chanting mvp. The whole stadium chanting MVP for them. So for, you know, people to do it for me in a. In a different country, like, it just meant a lot.
[00:15:57] Speaker B: Yeah, they learned.
[00:15:58] Speaker A: You.
[00:15:59] Speaker B: Learned about you in the, like, what, a few days ago? Yeah. And then now they're just like, literally, like, you're kind of their hero in a way. Like, you took down the U.S. it's like this guy did it.
Name tournament MVP.
I'm forgetting what you averaged, but last game, you had, like, 17.
When you got the MVP trophy, what did it mean for you? Like, the recognition where I felt like, you know, it was, like, maybe a moment in your life where, like, finally, like, you know, people are seeing I'm that guy.
[00:16:28] Speaker A: Yeah, well, getting the MVP trophy, a lot of people saw me look surprised.
[00:16:34] Speaker B: What was it?
[00:16:34] Speaker A: It wasn't surprised for the MEV because I had a feeling I was gonna get them. He told me to go last, so I was like, okay, I'm gonna get the mev. But it was an iPad. I got an iPad.
[00:16:43] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. He was like.
[00:16:44] Speaker A: So I was like, what the. An iPad? Like, why would I get an iPad?
[00:16:48] Speaker B: What'd you use that for so far?
[00:16:49] Speaker A: I just gave it to my mom.
[00:16:50] Speaker B: Okay, nice. Yeah.
[00:16:51] Speaker A: So I got an iPad, and I was like, what. What am I gonna do with the iPad? Right? Cause I already have one. So that. That was. That's what I was surprised for, if everyone wanted to know, because everyone was like, why? Why was he surprised? He got me. It was iPad. But just seeing the trophy for the first time, it was like, wow. Like, it really opened my eyes. Like, I was thinking about, you know, Mikel Tyne, because Mikhail Tyne was when it was one of my older bros and he went to FIBA. I think it was U18 as well. And he lost to America, but he was the top five. It was him. Zach Edie. No, no, not Zach Edie. It was him. Rob Dillingham, Kylan, Boswell.
Oh, you remember another USA guy, lanky guy, and I think someone from Mexico. I don't know.
It might have been Argentina, but I remember Mikel Tyne because I was watching all his games, and he was, like, doing everything that I was doing, but he just didn't win. So I was like, wow. Like, I got mvp. So it felt like I kind of topped what he did. And, yeah, like, it was just like, wow. Like, the trophy, the picture. My. My nephew was there, my sister and my dad. So it was like. Like they were seeing it too. So I was like, yo, are you guys seeing this? Like, so. Yeah, it just felt great.
[00:18:09] Speaker B: I see. I think I seen your mom at Vegas chanting. She's one of the most passionate people. What's that support system like, where it's like, they're at your games? Been there since you were young. What's that support system like?
[00:18:21] Speaker A: That's great. Having, you know, my mom, my uncle, my dad, my sister, my nephew, my grandma, my grandpa, my cousins, everyone just being involved with me, it just means a lot, you know? And that's really who I play for right now. Like, I don't play for myself. I play for my last name and the people that I have to provide for. You know, when I get older, like, it's. It's. You know, it's not just for me. That's what. That's what I really go into every game. I really think about it, like, I'm playing for my nephew. I'm playing for my mom. I'm playing for my dad. I'm playing for my uncle.
So just to have those guys as tight as, you know they are, like, it just means the world to me.
[00:18:59] Speaker B: What was your phone like after that? I want to know. What was like, could you respond to texts during that? And maybe who's the craziest person to reach out that you're like, damn, this person reached out.
[00:19:08] Speaker A: It was. It was crazy. It was one of, like, the. Like, after. After the tournament, and my phone wasn't blowing up. I was like, damn.
[00:19:16] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:19:16] Speaker A: You really see how, like, low. Like, it could get real quick. But during that time. Well, obviously, Shay, everyone knows SGA posted me.
[00:19:25] Speaker B: What was that? When you saw that, were you shocked
[00:19:26] Speaker A: I was on a plane going back. I wasn't shocked because I text him a lot. I know him, so he was like, send me the picture. And he was telling me congrats. And I was like, yo, like, you know sga, he's not gonna post it, though. Like, if he posts it, then. Okay, then it's gonna be crazy. But I was sleeping and I woke up, and then on the plane, I saw Shay mention you in a story, and I was like, oh, it posted. So I reposted it right away. And you know when someone, like, posts something and it's like, it has their name at the top? Like, a little bit?
[00:20:00] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:20:01] Speaker A: Nah, for this one, like, I posted it and squeezed it to make sure people knew it was Shay. So. Yeah. So Shay, Tyler Tanner from Vanderbilt, small guard.
Who else?
Like, a lot of guys, like, it's. It was a lot. Almost the whole Canada. Like, you 20. Are you, like, the men's team, like, reached out.
Yeah, it was crazy.
[00:20:28] Speaker B: What was the airport like? You come back, a lot of people. I see the signs. I seen everything. What was that moment like, too?
[00:20:34] Speaker A: I had a feeling they were going to do that.
It was really cool because I got to keep. I had the confetti. With me from the ground. I got to keep that. And I. All the posters, like, I never really got posters like that. So I kept all the posters. Like, they're really gonna mean something to me for in the long run. Like, whenever I have children, I'm gonna get. I'm gonna get to show them, like, you know, this is what I did. You should outdo me now. You know what I mean? And my uncle. Everyone talked about my uncle David Tindale, and how he was so good, and he was like, this is that. But I never had. There's no. I haven't seen anything. Like, there's.
There's no evidence. I'm just hearing stories, right.
[00:21:11] Speaker B: So I'm gonna send you some news clippings. Toronto Star. That's where I work. So that York University. Yeah. He's certified.
[00:21:18] Speaker A: Yeah, obviously he might. He's certified, but we had this conversation in Vegas.
Me at my age versus him at his age. I'm a little better. We'll talk about that after.
[00:21:30] Speaker B: What did he say?
[00:21:31] Speaker A: He was saying his mentality was he would beat me. His mentality's better. He's faster, stronger. He jumps higher. But, yeah, that's another. That's another time.
[00:21:41] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:21:42] Speaker A: Yeah, that. That moment was surreal in the airport, just seeing my whole family there. My mom, she didn't. She didn't get to go to Mexico because she had work, but just seeing her there first, driving me home, just. It was just amazing.
[00:21:54] Speaker B: Yeah.
For you was your favorite moment from the tournament that you look back on. You're like, man, I'm gonna remember that for the rest. Obviously, right on the scores table that. Was there a moment that you're like, I'm gonna cherish this. Whether it's, like, bonding with the guys or whatever. It is.
[00:22:08] Speaker A: Definitely.
Well, the moment I remember the most was the food and just what we had to do. Like, how privileged we felt just being in Canada compared to everyone else. We weren't able to brush our teeth with the regular water.
[00:22:24] Speaker B: Oh, damn.
[00:22:26] Speaker A: We had to use bottles. And just the food situation we were eating, we were surviving off of peanut butter and jelly sandwiches and guacamole and crackers.
[00:22:35] Speaker B: Damn.
[00:22:36] Speaker A: So.
[00:22:36] Speaker B: And you guys brought home gold.
[00:22:38] Speaker A: Yeah. So the whole time, we weren't playing on, like, old food.
[00:22:43] Speaker B: Did you ask any of the US guys, like, what did you guys eat?
[00:22:45] Speaker A: They were just uber eating food, but that's just, like, they just had the nil. And not saying that we didn't have the money, but it was just like, we kind of. I didn't Want to just do that? Because I don't, I'm not, you know, I don't come from. I don't want to use my mom's money, my dad's money. So I was just, you know, making a way. Making a way to eat and surviving and me and Kamani. Kamani. Walter is my roommate. He's my uplay teammate now too. He's my roommate now again, but he was my roommate. And we were saying, you know, we're gonna cry regardless if we won or lost. We were gonna cry just because we got to go home.
So it was like, it was that, like, crazy. And, you know, fortunately we won, so it was like, okay, like, this is one of the best trips. Like, it showed me a lot from the start. I got there.
Diversity, you know, to the, to the top. And we won.
[00:23:33] Speaker B: So what was your first meal back into the city?
[00:23:36] Speaker A: Tim Hortons.
[00:23:37] Speaker B: Tim Hortons.
[00:23:37] Speaker A: What's crazy? I love Tim Hortons, like, as much
[00:23:39] Speaker B: as people say nil and Tim Hortons.
[00:23:41] Speaker A: You're listening. If, if Tim Hortons is listening.
Sour cream glazed donut is one of the best donuts they've ever produced, like, ever. Don't. If they ever, like, take that away.
I don't know if I could go there. Yeah. But Tim Hortons was the first thing for sure because, you know, home, hometown Tim Hortons, you know.
Yeah.
[00:24:04] Speaker B: What'd you learn about yourself, like, from that tournament where you're like, hey, competing, winning gold, winning mvp. Was there something that you took away that you're like, about yourself that you maybe didn't know?
[00:24:17] Speaker A: Yeah, just saying, level headed, you know, it's. A lot of stuff happened during that tournament, you know, personal family stuff. And it was just like, like expectations. Everyone kind of like, I wasn't playing my best. I could, I could admit I wasn't playing my best for the first six.
Just trying to find a rhythm. Just, you know, I wasn't making shots, my free throws wasn't going down. But, you know, I admit I wasn't playing my best. And there's a lot of family stuff going on behind the scenes.
And, you know, I pushed through it. You know, I was like, you know, there's a lot of stuff happening with my family, coaches recruitment and, you know, I ended up pushing through and winning. So I learned just, you know, keep to myself, you know, stay, stay relaxed, stay poised.
And, you know.
[00:25:08] Speaker B: Yeah, you talked about it, college coaches all reaching out. Now what. How do you deal with that kind of stuff where it's like you talked about your Life's kind of changed, right?
[00:25:18] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:25:18] Speaker B: How do you deal with that? Where it's like, stay, remain humble. I'm guessing your people keep you that way. Yeah. But also just like, understand that, you know, there's. There's added pressure, right?
[00:25:28] Speaker A: Yeah, for sure.
It's crazy. I'm still trying to learn how to deal with it. Coaches texting before games, after games, just having to respond, you know, to, like, a message, just, you know, criticism, good things, bad things, not getting too high, not getting too low.
You know, I don't have an agent right now, so I'm. I'm handling everything by myself and with my uncle, so it's crazy. Just scheduling stuff, you know, now the money game is.
Money's involved. So now you got to talk about money transfer portal. Like, there's just a lot of factors that play into it and just me not really focusing on it now, like, well, obviously peace jam's done, so my AAU career is over. But not focusing on it while I'm playing is, like, the best thing I could do because, you know, I'm not playing for the coach. I'm playing to win, and I'm playing, you know, just to represent myself. And that just automatically will get the coaches and scouts looking at me because I'm playing with passion.
[00:26:31] Speaker B: So how do you feel about the NIL stuff? Because I feel like it's taken college basketball by storm. Guessing you've chatted with a bunch of players about, like, how they dealt with it, that kind of stuff. But for you as a guy from Canada, where sometimes in Canada, like, NIL is not as massive, but you've been in the States for a few years. How do you deal with that kind of stuff and, like, navigate that? And you talked about no agent. Right. So I feel like most kids these days have agents. They got, like. They got that locked in. Why not for you so far? And then also just like, what makes you kind of like.
Like, how are you navigating the NL process?
[00:27:03] Speaker A: Well, you know, agents. Agents really do stuff for a lot of guys.
Like a lot of the top five guys, top 10. But your game speaks. I mean, the amount of money you make is from your production. You know, I mean, you can't have an agent to negotiate more money for you if you're not performing. Right. It's about what you do on the court. It's not about just being likable person. So that's what I've realized. You know, I talk with Miles Sadler a lot about, you know, Asians and what he Did. And he didn't have an agent either. And so he signed with Clutch, but he never signed papers until, like, in the process, later, like, late, late, late. So I was talking with him about that. And, yeah, like, it's. It's scary because you don't know who's for you and who's not for you. Like, I'm still trying to figure out. Like, I'm open. My mom's opening a lot of bank accounts for me, like American bank accounts, Canadian bank accounts.
The people. People start doing stuff for you that you would never really expect to do for you. Like, I don't know if they want stuff in return, but you get that extra, like, pair of shoes that you wanted, or you get to take a trip, or all of a sudden, you know, they want to pay for food now and want to have gatherings, and this is that. So, you know, it's hard to see who's really who, you know, when money starts getting involved. And.
[00:28:31] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, it's a tricky thing. I feel like, what's your dream Nil deal? If you had to pick one that's like, okay, whether it's Canada or the US or it's like, I need this.
[00:28:45] Speaker A: Probably.
Probably Nike. Nike's definitely the dream or Jordan brand.
Yeah. Nike or Jordan. I really only wear Nike, so I feel like those. Those would be the best. What's your go to shoe right now? The GT cut ones. I got another pair, so I've been wearing those. The last. The green and blue ones.
A lot of people see me in the multicolored ones. Those are GT3s.
[00:29:11] Speaker B: I like those.
[00:29:11] Speaker A: So I wore those a lot. I wore those when we won. I might hang those up and, like, put them in, like, a frame with my metal. But, yeah, those.
I like a lot of Kobe's.
[00:29:22] Speaker B: So, yeah, speaking of Nike, we're here. Peace Jam. How would you describe, like, the end of your kind of AAU career kind of coming to an end? How would you describe. I know you're obviously. You told me you're going to be going out to some other tournaments in New York, that kind of stuff. Checking that out.
But how would you describe this Peace Jam kind of coming to an end?
[00:29:41] Speaker A: It's crazy. You know, it's crazy. I've been playing AAU since I was in, like, grade four.
My first notable moment of AAU was getting my jersey signed by Carlos Boozer. I was playing on CCAT in Mississauga. I'm not sure if a lot of people know, but ccat, it was my first ever Trip. It was in Ohio. And, like, just to think my last trip would be in Augusta, you know, it's, like, surreal. Like, yesterday I really had to look at the court one more time. Like, you know, I know I'm gonna be back for EYBL scholastics, but, like, just to get that U play feel, I took a picture of my jersey like, that last time playing AAU basketball in the summer. It's, like, surreal for me. It's crazy.
[00:30:26] Speaker B: Yeah. And the final game, you walk off, I see Chris Paul come and talk to you for, like, a few minutes. Tell me about that. When he.
The conversation that you had. Chris Paul, one of the greatest point guards of all time to ever touch a basketball. What was that like, where he's taking time. You also went to his camp, I believe.
[00:30:44] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:30:44] Speaker B: Tell me about the conversation with CP3 and.
Yeah, tell me about that.
[00:30:49] Speaker A: So from going to his camp, you know, he taught me a lot of things, you know, about screens, about just using the screens, like how to talk to your big man.
So from there, we had a good relationship. He really.
Because obviously SGA talks to him a lot about me. So, you know, he was just really, really helping me a lot with a lot of stuff, dealing with traps and presses and boxing one face guards. So that yesterday he was talking to me about, you know, just having a chip on your shoulder, just playing like you have, you know, something to prove. Every time he was. He told me a specific analogy. He was. He was like. When he was younger and Steve Nash was the mvp, the best point guard in the league at the time, Canadian also. He was like, I'm better than him. So he was chasing Steve Nash. Right. And when he eventually surpassed Steve Nash, he had the same mindset that there was guys going to league saying that they were better than him. So he was like, every game, it felt like something for him. He was like, you know, I'm gonna show you why I have a signature shoe and you don't have a signature shoe. So he was just saying, like, every game really means something because there's some. There's someone that's trying to get you every game. So. Yeah.
[00:32:09] Speaker B: Yeah. Talk about the communication with college coaches. What's that like, when it's, like, now it's getting serious, Right. How many coaches reached out. How many coaches reached out before FIBA? U18. And how much reached out after?
What's the breakdown?
[00:32:25] Speaker A: A lot reached out. Like, not a lot.
[00:32:28] Speaker B: Maybe approximately. Have you, like, been in contact with consistently after FIBA?
[00:32:32] Speaker A: Uh, okay. I would say before FIBA, probably, like three consistent coaches, I think one Saint Bonaventure.
[00:32:46] Speaker B: You went on a visit to Saint
[00:32:47] Speaker A: Bonaventure, one St. Bonaventure.
VCU was a bit consistent.
St. Louis, a little bit like a 10 schools. West Virginia obviously, too, but I know those guys, so.
[00:33:00] Speaker B: And now.
[00:33:01] Speaker A: And now like Seton hall, obviously. I mentioned North Carolina, lsu, like, it was crazy.
[00:33:10] Speaker B: Do you see yourself in a specific conference, like a player? Like, do you see. Or is it just like, hey, I'm kind of like, whatever school values what I bring and kind of also just like what will let me be me
[00:33:29] Speaker A: specific conference?
[00:33:30] Speaker B: Cause some people have dream schools. You know what I'm saying?
[00:33:32] Speaker A: Yeah, no, for sure. I definitely have a dream school.
[00:33:33] Speaker B: What's your dream school?
[00:33:34] Speaker A: I can't say that.
[00:33:35] Speaker B: Okay, let's keep it rap.
[00:33:37] Speaker A: If I was to say that, you know, I don't want other coaches.
[00:33:39] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:33:40] Speaker A: But I feel like I can play in any conference. I know that for a fact.
But whoever gives me opportunity to really get a feel on the floor. Like, I know there's a lot of schools that are mid major that have a lot of opportunities for freshmen, and I know there's a lot of schools that are high major that have a lot of opportunities for freshmen that just don't know it yet, you know, Like, a lot of these big schools wait out, you know, to offer kids because obviously the transfer portal. But I mean, like, I feel like I'm already experienced. You know, I feel like what I did in the U18 against the college guys, I mean, it says a lot that I.
No matter the conference, no matter the age, like, I don't think you can stop me.
[00:34:28] Speaker B: Yeah.
Any planned visits or is that just like, waiting?
[00:34:32] Speaker A: Yeah, like I told you, I'm planning on coming in November.
So I scheduled West Virginia, Providence, Shout
[00:34:41] Speaker B: out to Yusuf Ali.
[00:34:42] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:34:42] Speaker B: Canadian.
[00:34:43] Speaker A: Yeah. Providence, Ohio, trying to get unlv, Seton Hall.
[00:34:50] Speaker B: They're gonna be busy.
[00:34:51] Speaker A: Yeah, it's gonna be crazy.
[00:34:52] Speaker B: What's your most excited about? Just, like getting on the campus. Like, when you. What are you looking for when you get there? Because, like, some people talk about, I guess you talked with other players about, like, when, you know, it's. That's the school. What are you looking for when it. When you get there?
[00:35:05] Speaker A: The culture, how the coach is coaching. Because I like an aggressive coach. I don't like a coach that really.
Well, obviously I don't have a. You know, I can't choose my coach, but I like a coach that's really gonna coach me. Like, don't just sugarcoat it, like, really, really let me know, because I think that's. That's what's gonna get the best out of me. And just the team. It shows that you care also.
So, you know, I, you know, the coaching style, the style of the offense, the culture, obviously, and just, you know how I feel like I can fit into that system.
[00:35:42] Speaker B: Yeah, I've obviously talked to you about, like, Dylan Brooks, those guys. Is there something that you've taken away from them that's like you've learned or you're like, hey, I know what it's like to be a pro because of them. Yeah, I know what, what their regimen is like and that, like, I'm consistently exposed to.
[00:36:04] Speaker A: Yeah, well, Dylan helped me a lot about away with recruitment and also just seeing his approach as a, As a. As an NBA player. You know, when you get to the NBA, you can. It's easy to get complacent. You get a lot of money. Like, it's easy for you to be like, ah, I'm already getting paid. I don't need to work on my game. But to see him in his seventh year, I think fifth year, in his fifth year, changing, you know, his game, like he was known as a defender, right?
[00:36:32] Speaker B: Yep.
[00:36:33] Speaker A: So he, he changes full game offensively to become an offensive weapon. He's averaging, I think, 23 or 22 or something.
[00:36:41] Speaker B: Something in that range.
[00:36:42] Speaker A: Post game, post game, all that he has, like, he really has it. So seeing him do that, it just always. It shows me like there's a lot more to do. Like, I'm not in my full form yet.
And also with the college recruitment, I asked him why he chose Oregon, because obviously Oregon's prestige school. I said, why did you choose Oregon? And he was like, you know, the fit. He knew that the Oregon coach needed him, not want him. Like, he needed him to play. He needed him there in order to be an impactful team in the. And I think they were in the PAC12.
So, yeah, it's not about who wants you, it's about who needs you. So, yeah, he told me that and I really looked at it and it, It. It opened my eyes a bit.
[00:37:31] Speaker B: That's a good point. Wise words from Dylan Brooks for you. What are you looking to holding on in terms of, like the next kind of maybe in a few months as you gear up for this final high school season where you're like, I need to.
I need to maybe not develop this, but improve on or. I want to focus on this aspect of my game.
[00:37:50] Speaker A: I want to focus on, you know, being consistently, you know, poised, not getting too deep. My mid range for sure. Getting that bump fade mid range.
I'm looking to, you know, floaters consistently knocking down the three.
My shots felt better recently, but the three. The three, it just has to be more consistent, higher field goal percentage and.
[00:38:16] Speaker B: Yeah, gotcha.
Next for you. We kind of talked about it. Peace. Sham ends. Where are you headed to next? When are you back in the city?
What's a JVON Tyndale summer look like for end of August and then obviously heading to Monver.
[00:38:32] Speaker A: So for the end of my au, I'm supposed to be.
I'm going to leak it now. I'm just going to say what I'm going to do. So let's talk about New York versus New York.
I'm going to be heading down.
[00:38:43] Speaker B: It's coming out Tuesday.
[00:38:44] Speaker A: Yeah, I'm going to be there this July. July 21st to the 23rd. So I get my first New York versus New York debut next Tuesday.
I also play on Thursday. So I'm being New York for two days and then come back to Canada. Definitely do the pro am again.
Got to do the pro Am because, you know, why not? Might as well. So probably gonna do the pro am again. And then I go.
Planning on doing. It's between Drifty and Jaina Finch. I don't know if you know Drifty J. He's supposed to be doing Jayna Finch or Rod Waverly, Vancouver.
So between those two, I don't know. Let me know in the comments or wherever this is posted what I should do.
[00:39:31] Speaker B: I'll be at Jada Finch, I'll tell you that. Yeah, Broadway and bc. I don't know if I'm gonna be crazy, but that sounds like it's gonna
[00:39:37] Speaker A: be a movie that's gonna be crazy.
[00:39:38] Speaker B: I would do that if I was you.
[00:39:40] Speaker A: Yeah, Broadway, the league for sure. I mean, everyone's anticipating me being on the team. Everyone knows. I think now yesterday something came out where I was after the Florida Rebels game.
[00:39:51] Speaker B: Their.
[00:39:51] Speaker A: Their cameraman, Rod Wave Elites cameraman came through and I think he was on live and he was saying, I need you in an RWE jersey. And he was on TikTok Live and I think everyone saw it and they screen recorded and they're like, oh my gosh, oh my gosh, he's coming. He's coming to bc. So I think everyone's kind of amping up for that.
So, you know, I definitely got to show face over there. I've never been to Vancouver also, so it'd be a great first time.
[00:40:16] Speaker B: And the atmosphere there, like what do you know about it? Just from watching and then it was crazy.
[00:40:21] Speaker A: I know it's crazy because there's a guy, Irish co.
Kokua. I think his name is.
Sorry if I'm pronouncing it wrong, but Irish, he. They used to chant overrated all that. Like it was crazy. So him, like I just know their atmosphere is crazy.
So I would love to be able to play in that. And then.
[00:40:42] Speaker B: Yeah, I want to ask you this too.
You're connected to a lot of Canadian NBA players. Who's your favorite? Like to watch or. Because you could pick. I feel like you got a lot of relationships, but is there somebody that you're like, I gotta turn on the tv, I gotta watch them and what's the reason why?
[00:40:59] Speaker A: Probably.
Well, okay, I can tell you this upcoming Miles Sadler for sure.
[00:41:05] Speaker B: Okay. Yeah. Oh yeah.
[00:41:06] Speaker A: That's one of the. I really, really want to see what he does. Cuz he did. He's played against meme countless times and you know, like did a lot. You know, like he's one of the hardest players I ever had to guard. So I want to see what he does. And.
But in the NBA I say Dillon Brooks not just because I'm not just like being biased, but I think just his post game is just like so unexpected. Like you know when you would expect someone to turn some way and he just does the complete opposite. So it's like oh, like he would catch me on that move. Like you know. So I like watching him because he like it's very unexpected. Him and Jamal Murray. I like, I like those two and obviously sga but you know, everyone doesn't like his foul baiting.
[00:41:50] Speaker B: Yeah. What are your thoughts on that? Hey, but I'll say this, I'm watching Liam do it. Liam is like the way he draws fouls. What are your thoughts on him? He's like. He's also an upcoming player.
[00:41:58] Speaker A: Liam's great.
I just got introduced to him this upcoming year because he was at Bella Vista, but I didn't really know of him. I know he was at Iowa United, but he's really, really good. He. He's super relaxed and calm. Like almost like just I know how to break this. I'm not really worried like that type of calm. Like I want to have that type of pace too. So I look at his game and I'm like, what can I take from him? Obviously he's a bit. A lot taller but you know, it's just him being Composed and never getting too sped up and rattled and knowing when to go fast and slow.
[00:42:37] Speaker B: Yeah. He gives me sga Lou Williams a lot.
[00:42:39] Speaker A: A lot of sga.
[00:42:40] Speaker B: Yeah. There's a little similarity. So I know people complain about the foul baiting, but yo, SGA just.
I mean, he's back to back mvp.
[00:42:48] Speaker A: It's a skill. Skill, really A skill.
[00:42:50] Speaker B: Right?
[00:42:51] Speaker A: No one could say that foul baiting is like.
It's a skill, bro. Like, it's not easy to get that call. He's. He's really manipulating the refs to blow the whistle. You know what I mean? Like, the ref's not doing it because he has. He wants to. It's because he's getting fouled.
[00:43:07] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:43:07] Speaker A: You know what I mean? So. Yeah.
[00:43:09] Speaker B: And if you don't want that to happen, just don't foul him. Yeah. It's quite clear. Yeah. What can we expect from you at Monvert this upcoming year? Man, I feel like it's a redemption season. On the way Chipotle.
[00:43:18] Speaker A: On the way Chipotle Annual Scholastic. Yeah. Yeah. I'm winning. I'm gonna win everything. I know I'm very confident and I've experienced a loss in the championship game. I've experienced it. I know what my team's capable of. I know Hamilton's gonna be ready. I know o' Neal is gonna be ready. I know Xavier. I know Savvat. I know everyone's gonna be ready. Our coach is gonna be ready. It was his first year last year and we went to the championship. So I'm ready to, you know, take that next level. And really, when have FIBA under my resume.
Eybo under my resume. And Chipotle under my resume. Also with City Palms too. Yeah.
[00:43:58] Speaker B: So two Pete Jayvon Tindall away from basketball, what's your favorite thing to do? Like what's. What's Jayvon Tinder? Outside of hooping, probably
[00:44:10] Speaker A: just being with my girlfriend like that, she brings me a lot of peace. I don't really get to. I don't have to think about basketball. It's with me and her, it's just like she plays basketball too, but it's really not like I don't have to think about basketball. I just could just be me, you know, she doesn't like me just cause I'm Javeon and I play basketball and like, she likes me for me. So, you know.
[00:44:34] Speaker B: Yeah. Real love. Real love is. You give her buckets.
[00:44:38] Speaker A: Hell yeah. Yeah, we played ones actually and I can't really. I don't want to expose her or nothing, but she knows what it is.
[00:44:45] Speaker B: Yeah. A year ago, I feel like not mostly, not a lot of people had you on the radar, you know.
[00:44:51] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:44:51] Speaker B: Now you're FIBA. You, you 18, MVP, one of the fastest rising prospects in Canada. You went from, I don't know what exactly, but you're like 46, 47th on ESPN.
[00:45:03] Speaker A: I was 89.
[00:45:04] Speaker B: 89.
What's that like, seeing the jump, like 40 something spots?
[00:45:09] Speaker A: It was crazy.
Obviously a lot of guys are like, yo, you're going to jump, you're going to. I didn't believe it.
I thought I was gonna go to like 60. I never seen anyone jump 42 or 43 seconds.
[00:45:22] Speaker B: That might be the biggest I've seen
[00:45:23] Speaker A: in a while ever, like, ever as a small guard or as a guard in general. As a Canadian, I've never seen no one jump that high, that quick. It was a span of like two weeks, three weeks. So, you know, seeing myself being top 50 was crazy. It was in the morning, I woke up in the morning and guys are saying, top 50, top 50. I was like, top 50, top 50. Like, I must have been like, 50th.
No, I was like, I was, I was there. Like, I was like, wow. Like I really did it. But I didn't get too complacent. I was just like, you know, I'm supposed to be here and now I'm reaching for the top 30. You know, I'm just trying to chase and chase, chase top 35. I want it to be top 35. And this, this AU season, you know, if it doesn't happen now, I have another milestone to hit as soon as I get to Monver. Just playing with the chip of my shoulder from there.
[00:46:14] Speaker B: What's your message, like for young players who are waiting for that recognition, for that opportunity to break through and they're watching you do it. What's your message to young players? Maybe Canadian players coming out?
[00:46:28] Speaker A: You know, don't let people tell you you can't do something. A lot of people told me I couldn't win gold for Canada.
Even Canadians told me that. And, you know, I did it.
You know, stay true to yourself. You know, sometimes stuff isn't gonna work out. So you, sometimes you have to change stuff up. Like you have to switch. You have to be okay with trying something new. You know, like, you gotta believe in yourself. You know, it's not going to be easy because there's a lot of times I doubt myself too. A lot of times I'm like, how did I even do this? How Am I even here? Sometimes I go back to my highlights and give myself that confidence, that fake confidence of, you could do this. Look at you. Like, this is you. Like, how did you even do this? You know, not to just, you know, brag about what I've done, but just to really remind myself, like, I can. I'm really that guy, you know? So you have to give yourself fake confidence.
Believe in yourself.
Don't compare yourself to others. Because a lot of other people have different relationships, have different connections.
Those guys, you know, they have their own path. You have your own path. And focus on yourself and getting better. And, yeah, staying humble.
[00:47:43] Speaker B: Wise words from Javion Tindall, my guy. I can't thank you enough for coming on the podcast. Taking time. It was. It's an honor, honestly, to follow your journey from royal crown days to here, to what's coming next. FIBA U18 gold versus history. I feel like I won gold. I feel like you brought me a gold even though I don't got no medal. I feel like, honestly, the way I was watching that, like, man, it was. It was. It was dope to see. So I'm excited to watch what's next for you. See your college recruitment take off. And yeah, my brother, I can't thank you enough for taking the time out here in Augusta, Georgia.
[00:48:15] Speaker A: One more thing.
Tiva Unit World Cup.
[00:48:19] Speaker B: Oh, I didn't ask you about that. What can we expect?
[00:48:22] Speaker A: All I have to say is I know America is.
[00:48:26] Speaker B: They might be getting the Avengers.
[00:48:27] Speaker A: I know America is going to try and do the.
Have all the good players, all the ranked guys, but it's still not. I don't think the outcome is going to change.
You know, Captain Canada, obviously is the name I got, Captain Canada.
So, you know, I feel like our crew is ready and expect.
I want the whole Canada to be tuned in for this. I want the whole Canada to be tuned for the rematch. Whoever we play from the start to the finish, I want Canada to feel like they were there from the start this time instead of just at the end.
[00:48:57] Speaker B: Tap in, everybody.
[00:48:58] Speaker A: So I want everyone in Canada to watch and get ready for more history to.
[00:49:04] Speaker B: You know, I'm gonna make my mission to come out there. I want to be out there to watch the FIBA U19 World cup because I was like, getting FOMO. I was like, damn, I'm missing out on this celebration.
So that's my. My goal is to get out to watch what you guys do at the FIBA U19 World cup next summer. Jayvion Tindale, my brother can't thank you enough. Always taking time. I appreciate you brother. This has been the Canadian Basketball show, your go to spot for the latest news, stories and analysis on Canadian basketball. I'm a guy jvr one of the fastest rising prospects out of Canada in Augusta and we out sa.
