How Shayeann Day-Wilson helped pave the way for women's basketball in Toronto

[00:00:00] Speaker A: Foreign. [00:00:03] Speaker B: Welcome to the Canadian Basketball show. Your go to spot for the latest news stories and analysis on Canadian basketball. I'm your host, Lee Ben Osman. On today's show, we got one of my favorite players to come out of Toronto. Former ACC rookie of the year. Just had an impressive summer with Canada basketball winning bronze at the FIBA America cup and also helping lead Canada to a gold medal over Texas at the Global Jam U23 tournament. She's a trailblazer in women's basketball, probably the most dripped out person we got on the show we've ever had. False ass. Very own Cheyenne Day Wilson. Welcome to the show. [00:00:38] Speaker A: Appreciate it. [00:00:40] Speaker B: How you been? [00:00:41] Speaker A: I've been good, you know, just, it's been a, it's been a journey. It's been great, but I'm just embracing it every single day. I'm trying to, you know, just, just be the best I can and right now I'm just, I'm focused and I'm keeping the main thing, the main thing, you know, I'm getting better on, on and off the court and yeah, I'm just trying to be the best version I can be. [00:01:02] Speaker B: How would you describe the, the summer for you? I feel like very like impressive, especially with Canada basketball. The run that you had, very busy. What's that been like traveling from, from country to country and then also playing at home? [00:01:15] Speaker A: Yeah, it's just, it's been busy like you were saying. But you know, I'm just grateful for it. I'm grateful for all the opportunities I've been into. Different environments, different people. It's just, it's been great just to, you know, be on that stage and that international stage now. It's not like college. It's not like, you know, a you nothing. It's just, it's a different, bigger stage and I just been, I embraced it and I learned, I was a sponge. I learned from the older girls and stuff like that. But overall it's just been a great experience and I'm very grateful for it. [00:01:46] Speaker B: What would you say is like the biggest difference from college, high school, AU and then international stage where like the style is kind of different and you were kind of like moving as a floor general. [00:01:55] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:01:56] Speaker B: Running the opposite offense. They have you doing that kind of stuff. Tell me about the, how different the international stage is from like college and that kind of stuff. [00:02:03] Speaker A: It's different and everything matters. It's like you're a pro. Right. And obviously I've been, I've been working to get there for a long time and I'm finally the time has come. And, you know, like I told you just every single day, I'm just working on being the best version of myself being a pro. So being in the international play is just. It's much. It's much faster. You know, concepts and things matter more. And yeah, it just. It just helps you in the end. So I was just very, very happy that I got to experience that. And, you know, I just like that type of style of basketball. [00:02:36] Speaker B: Yeah, like I said, I was coming off a global jam just recently. What was it like playing in that. We'll talk about the performance, too. Very clutch. 11 points in the fourth quarter in the gold medal game. Some tough shots you hit. You gotta. You gotta show me the midi. The midi. The little MIDI you got where you rise up, you know, And I remember like a 3 bo you hit. I think it was on the right side from deep. I forgot what exactly. But like I said, 11 points in the fourth quarter. Finished the game with 18 points, four rebounds, four assists. How long have you had that midi in the game? In your game, though? [00:03:07] Speaker A: For a long time? No, you know, I think that that's one of the things on a scout that they really try to stop. Right. The left, the left midi. [00:03:14] Speaker B: But Texas had no answer. [00:03:15] Speaker A: Yeah, it's just. I got to my spot and that is what just like, even in being an international stage, it just really showed me. It's just like a lot of these pros nowadays, they just get to their spots, right? And you got to be really consistent. So that's just something I've been perfecting a lot in my game, and that's just something I have. And, you know, stopping on a dime and that's just my game. [00:03:35] Speaker B: It seemed like that game against Texas, like, met a little more. Yeah, was. It was some trash talking going on too. Let's talk about it. I see some. I was a court side. It seemed like that game meant a little more. [00:03:47] Speaker A: Nah, I'll be real. It just. It meant a little more because it's just like, you know, I played Texas before they were in my conference sec. So I played them when I was on lsu. I played them twice and, you know, I was out for the fourth quarter. I was out basically the whole time. Kind of we played against him. So, you know, I told myself, you know, when I see them again, it's up and, you know, it's just as God's timing. I. You know, I played them in the finals and how sweet it is to just beat Texas on home court and, you know, I never took it, like, I never took the opportunity for granted because I just like, you know, it's time to just win gold and just put on. Right. So it was a big moment and I showed up. [00:04:27] Speaker B: Are you a big trash talk or you're like, what gets you going? Like, Because I know, I know the other team was talking a lot. [00:04:32] Speaker A: Yeah. So that's the thing, right? When people. I'm a. I'm pretty chill. Like, I just, you know, I let my game speak for itself. I'm a tough person to do that. I just stay calm. But it's just when you come to me with smoke, I never run. You feel what I'm saying? So, hell yeah, I'm always, always front line when the smoke comes. So, you know, she was doing a little trash talking and then I was going back and forth with her. But then also too, I backed it up because I was hooping. You feel what I'm saying? I think sometimes when you talk trash and you don't be hooping, it's like, why are you really talking? You feel I'm saying? So I just took it as a disrespect and it's like, bro, I got a killer. [00:05:05] Speaker B: Yeah, did your thing. Juan Gold. What's it like for you? Like wearing. Wearing can on your chest now. How many times have you played Global Jam? [00:05:11] Speaker A: Played three times now. Three times. [00:05:13] Speaker B: Two goals. What's it like when we're in Canada on your chest? [00:05:17] Speaker A: I'm just, I'm grateful for it. You know, not a lot of people get the opportunity to represent Canada on like, you know, one of the biggest stages. So every single time, you know, I get that call, I just, I never take it for granted and I just, you know, I learn and I just want to get better. [00:05:32] Speaker B: Are you eyeing 20, 28 LA Olympics? [00:05:35] Speaker A: Yeah, for sure. I'm Olympian. [00:05:37] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:05:38] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:05:38] Speaker B: How cool would that be too? Especially coming from where you come from, like showing, representing. How cool do you think that would be? Especially inspiring a lot of kids. [00:05:46] Speaker A: Yeah. You know, just being an Olympian already in itself, that just holds weight, right? That's legendary. And especially where I come from, you know, false death. No one is doing that right now, you know, and no one has ever done that. So right now I'm just, I'm walking this journey and I'm just, I'm trying to, you know, knock down everything brick by brick. Right. But, you know, it's hard. It's obviously hard, you know, you just, you're doing it alone. But it's just like in the End. It's just a story that you can tell. [00:06:14] Speaker B: Like I said, handled a lot of the point guard duties for Canada this summer. FIBA America winning bronze there, obviously. New head coach to Nell Fortner for the senior women's national team. How does she. From conversation you had with her, how does she envision using you in her system and then also with the national team? [00:06:30] Speaker A: Nell is great. You know, we. We've had many talks. You know, she just wants me to be better. She wants me better on and off the court. She wants me to be a leader, and, you know, she just. She just wants me to be the best version of I can be. So I really respect that. And, you know, like you were saying, she just wants me to be that facilitator. She also wants me, you know, to get buckets and stuff like that. Just lead. Just be that leader. So I'm working at it every day, becoming a leader. And, you know, that stuff doesn't happen overnight. That's just, you know, many reps, you know, things that you just have to work on. [00:06:58] Speaker B: Yeah, a lot of people, I feel like, in the grassroots scene and people that have watched you play, they call you a pioneer and, like, what you've been able to accomplish and how you've paved the way for a lot of players coming up, especially, I feel like the next wave of talent, like, when you talk to players that come up, they're like, yeah, I watched Cheyenne Wilson play. You know, like, I watched. I remember being in the gym watching, like, I remember being on the podcast and talking about how, like, homies of mine that didn't watch basketball. Yeah, they're like, I know who Cheyenne Wilson is. You know, like, I would see her. I see our clips, I see all this kind of stuff, you know, but I don't think people realize, like, what it was like for you playing basketball when there wasn't a lot of people coming up, and you were one of the first, at least from the city and how you got to this point. But, Tommy, let's start with the origin story. What first got you hooked to basketball and playing it in the city? [00:07:42] Speaker A: So basketball, I tell people this all the time. It was just the way out, and it's still my way out. You know, just growing up, there wasn't, you know, there's just a lot of group in the area that had a lot of crimes group and Falstaff. So the only thing I really could do was just, you know, just stay out of trouble and fall in love with something. Right. Just fall in love with, like, Sport or something. So I was a dancer at first. All my sisters were dancing, so that's why I started dancing. But I was like, I don't really want to dance anymore. I'm just doing it for them, right? So, you know, Patrick Shaw, Brittany Miller, they got me in the gym one day in Falstaff, and they're like, all right, go shoot. So now I was shooting a little bit, and then just like, all right, you could kind of. You know, you could kind of shoot. So, you know, just from then and there, just. They changed my life. Both of them changed my life, and the rest is history. So I would always spend time in the gym. You know, my mom would always call Patrick and be like, tell her, come home right now. You know? Cause it's getting late, or whatever. But I was just a gym rat, and I just. I wanted it so much. And, you know, my mom never wanted it for me. My family never wanted it for me. I just. I wanted it for myself. So I would always, you know, spend extra time. You know, it was a grind, and I just. I put blood, sweat, and tears into the game. And, you know, like I said, it was just the way out for me. [00:08:57] Speaker B: Yeah, I'm thinking about. I remember your first season at Duke. I did a story on you. I spoke to Patrick, and Patrick was telling me just about how your mom would come, bring dinner over at times and stuff like that. Were there many girls playing basketball at the time? What was that like when you got into it and Patrick showing you the ropes and getting you in the gym? Because I remember people talk about how legendary those Falstaff runs were, and people in the gym. We'll talk about that in a second. But tell me about. Was there many people playing basketball? [00:09:28] Speaker A: Like, no, that looks like no girls at the time. You know, I didn't. At the time, I didn't really know my potential, right? Patrick knew my potential. So it was just him. He just believed in me so much, and, you know, he believed in me so much. At the time, I thought from my own. I was, like, 8, 9 years old. I thought I was going to the NBA. Like, no one could tell me I wasn't going to the NBA, you know? But, yeah, I just started playing with the boys because there wasn't a lot of girls team to put me on, right? And I started playing with the boys. Play with the boys team. And just to get me stronger and, you know, mentally and physically. So I just start with the boys team, and Patrick's like, I gave it three years, four years. And then we became, you know, just. We started our own organization. He started organization Sisters Keepers. So that was one of the ver. The first teams, basically, to come out of fall staff, whatever. We were training at Falstaff. And then I had my sisters playing with me, got my sisters to stop dancing. They started playing with me. So you see how everything just comes back into full circle. I started dancing because my sisters. They started playing basketball because of me. So it's just. I just. I couldn't be more thankful. And then, you know, Sisters Keepers, we. You know, we started from the bottom. Patrick built that. Me and him built it brick by brick. So, you know, I'm forever grateful for it. [00:10:39] Speaker B: Were you a good dancer? [00:10:42] Speaker A: I was one of those people that they brought in to do, like, a little stunt so I could do, like, a nice backflip. So then they'll bring me to do, like, a backflip. You know, that's the only thing. [00:10:52] Speaker B: Obviously, we talked about Sisters Keepers. What was it like playing for that team? And tell me just about the origins and how that team kind of assembled. [00:11:00] Speaker A: It's just the name itself. You know, we were just so connected and just. I don't even know how to, like, there's so much words. And, you know, just over the years, we just started getting better and better because we just. You know, we just. Like I said, Patrick built that from brick by brick. So, you know, there was a lot of things that probably didn't work out the way I should work up. But then in the end, it all worked out. You know, we had girls that went to power fives. You know, Patrick made sure they got to schools, you know, just everything. And then from Sisters Keepers, he brought Sisters Keepers to Crestwood. So then that's how the Crestwood stuff kind of started. Right? Because basically what happened was their. The vice principal, he had came to one of our games, Sisters Keepers games. And then there was about eight of us, eight or nine of us that ended up on the Sisters Keepers going to Crestwood. So then we ended up playing together for AAU and, you know, in school basketball. So that's basically how the Crestwood stuff started, too, because, you know, Patrick started it and brought it from Sister Keepers to Crestwood. So it was just always good, because then you could get. You get to play with the same people, you know, yearly around and all that, and you're just with the same team. So that's how all that stuff started. [00:12:08] Speaker B: Yeah, we're talking about Patrick, obviously. Huge impact, I feel like in the grassroots scene, everybody knows It. But from your perspective, what would you say in terms of his impact in women's basketball but also someone that's also been there for you from the start? [00:12:23] Speaker A: Yeah, it's been great. The journey has been great. He embraces me, I embrace him. But all in all, he just wants the best for me and he's been my right hand man from day one. Then, you know, it's just he's always there for me. But not only me, he's there for other people too. So he's just one of those people you can just call on for anything. You know, he's seen all this stuff. You know, he was at Falstaff Community center when all, you know, the NBA guys used to be there. Everyone, Right, let's talk about that. [00:12:54] Speaker B: Like, yeah, I think a lot of names that I've heard, Wiggins was there. [00:12:57] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:12:58] Speaker B: R.J. barrett. [00:12:59] Speaker A: R.J. barrett, all those guys. [00:13:00] Speaker B: And Corey Joseph, Tristan Thompson. Like everyone that was like a player. [00:13:04] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:13:05] Speaker B: To come through false staff. So you were there when you were young. [00:13:08] Speaker A: Yeah, because. So this is what happened. They used to have a Tuesday night run that Patrick started. Right. Tuesday night run where all those guys will come in. It don't matter. Like, it was just, you know, it's runs. And I would always ask him. I was always used to like going his office. So I would be back between his office and the gym. So I go in his office, he'll show me like a Kobe highlight or something or like, you know, MJ highlight. And I would go try to study it. And then I'd be watching the guys too, on the court. So every single time they'd be down at that end, I'd be on this and trying to like work on something, whatever. So that's mostly how like I got my game, just, you know, going back and forth. And you would have me on the sidelines. You know, every single time they'll go down, I try to make it like a layup or do like a crazy move. So that's just kind of how everything started. [00:13:44] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:13:45] Speaker B: Any favorite memories from like watching those runs and then also just like being on the side too. I'm also like thinking back, I know you worked out with a lot of those guys, like RJ and that kind of stuff too. What was that like? [00:13:56] Speaker A: That was just. It was great because I just got to see greatness at firsthand. Like I've been in the gym with denim brown. Like, I don't think anyone knows how legendary he is, but when I was like young, he was like, I Think he. I don't know what he did or something. He did some, like, legendary stuff, but. [00:14:11] Speaker B: This thing dropped over 100 in the game. [00:14:12] Speaker A: Yeah, exactly. And the moment I shook his hand, I was just like, wow. [00:14:15] Speaker B: You felt the aura? [00:14:16] Speaker A: Yeah, I felt the aura. I was like, wow. But, you know, even like Junior Cadugan, those guys, like, way back, I just. I was always in there, like, I was in their presence. So it just felt good to just be, you know, around people that are just in the same, you know, same path, same journey and just, you know, trying to live a dream. [00:14:32] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:14:33] Speaker B: How do you think that neighborhood shaped you? And like, the competitiveness you show on the core and the toughness also going. I feel like for going from false tap, a lot of, like, you talk about it, the. How basketball was like a outlet for you, and just like, I feel like it's also just like people don't know just like, how much of an impact it had on the. I feel like the basketball scene in the city. [00:14:55] Speaker A: Yeah. So just like, you know, I grew up with a lot of people that are not living here right now. So, you know, I had a lot of friends and stuff like that. I'll hang around with them, obviously, you know, they pass, but it's just like just going to fall. Being able to just go to Falstaff Community center every single day. You have a gym right across from, you know, your house. So it's just. I never took that for granted. I was just like, if I'm going to do this, I'm going just do it the right way, if that makes any sense. And, yeah, I had some times where, you know, I didn't want to do it and stuff like that. Things got hard, but that's just life. Life gets hard. But just basketball was just always the outlet of just me being able to just live my dreams and just make it right. Just make my mom proud. So I just never took it for granted ever. [00:15:37] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:15:37] Speaker B: Was there a moment where you realize I'm kind of different from. From a lot of these people? Like, no one's putting in the work that I'm. That I'm doing. And, like, I'm guessing, obviously, like, schools are starting to reach out eventually. Like, was there a moment realized? Yo, I'm kind of tough. [00:15:51] Speaker A: Yeah, I was talking to. So when I was in, like the seventh, like, sixth, seventh grade, that's when I got like, my first offer. [00:15:56] Speaker B: Right, your first offer? [00:15:57] Speaker A: Yeah, my first offer was NC State. Yeah. I'll never forget Patrick brought it to my house. He framed it for me and everything. I didn't know what offers were like, anything. I didn't know I was just playing basketball. Right. Because I loved it. So he explained it to me. He's like, okay, you know, you got your first offer to go to, you know, school. So I was just like, okay. And then I just, from that just made me always want to just train harder. But from that, I don't know, like, just, I never knew about any of this stuff. Like, I never knew like, where basketball could take me until, like, you know, I obviously start to get, like, better and better. And then he started to, like, explain it to me. But that's what I'm saying. Like, that's just the impact he had on my life because if I never had him, I wouldn't really know, you know, basically the potential. I would just be playing basketball. Right? [00:16:41] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:16:41] Speaker B: How many offers did you end up with? [00:16:45] Speaker A: Like, so you're over 100. Over? Yeah. [00:16:47] Speaker B: You're picking a little. You could have gone to any school you wanted, man. That's crazy to think about. And also just like when I think about it too. Did you ever, like, look back and be like, what I'm kind of doing, no one else is really doing. Like, it's like when I talk about pioneer, like no one was getting offers at that time. [00:17:04] Speaker A: I don't. But that's the thing. I never really looked at anyone. I just stay in my lane, if that makes any sense. I just like focus on what I'm doing and then it's just like, eventually you find out, oh, I'm like the first to do this. Right. But that just shows people that if they want something, they could put their mind to it. Right? So obviously everyone's path is different. Everyone's journey is different. I don't look at someone because it's just like we all have our own goals in life, right. So I just try to just stay focused on the main thing. [00:17:31] Speaker B: So obviously Crestwood end up there. How many players, like you said, obviously, I think from Sister, there's about eight of you guys right there. [00:17:38] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:17:38] Speaker B: On that roster. What was it like getting over there? And then obviously you end up winning back to back OSPA championships. And I'll have some questions about, like, if you feel like that was the best team ever, ever assembled. [00:17:48] Speaker A: But like, I, I, I think so. Yeah, I definitely think so. I definitely think it was for sure. [00:17:53] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:17:54] Speaker B: What was it like the first few years? [00:17:57] Speaker A: First few years is like even that too. You know, we're losing, like, we're going over to the States. You know, maybe we'd lose by 20 or something like that, but that just all just, you know, built our confidence because then, you know, we had some people come to our team and stuff. Like. Like, at one point in time, our starting five was going to top schools. Like, you know, we had a girl on my team was going to NC State. NC State was ranked fourth in the country at that time. You know, you. You had UConn. We. Me and Tasha, Syracuse, like, you know. You know, so it's just like we were all going, you know, and in our bench too, like, shout out to them. They were the ones that, you know, when the five would come out, they would hold the four down. And they were also going to schools too. So it's just like everyone was just doing their thing. Like, that's what I'm saying. Like, that team right there was just. [00:18:41] Speaker B: I was gonna ask. Cause, like, the. The most recent, like the Toby that got. Do you feel like they have a chance? [00:18:46] Speaker A: No, no, no, no. [00:18:47] Speaker C: Not. [00:18:47] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. Let me settle this, like, respectfully. You guys don't have a chance. And I'm looking into the camera. You guys don't have a chance. I'm so sorry. [00:18:55] Speaker B: Talk about it. Is it a depth? [00:18:56] Speaker A: Because, yeah, it was me. Me, Tasha, Aaliyah, Rebecca and Kayla. Like, you have no chance. Who, like, who already is going to guard A. Leah and Tasha. 4, 5. Like, let's be so for real. And then we. I got my shooter. Rebecca. And then me. Come on, Kayla. And then you. We. We got Zach coming off the bench. Tiana, come off the bench. D. Coming off the bench. Like, come on. Be. Be so for real. They don't want to smoke. [00:19:16] Speaker B: Smoke. Nah, man. I'm just thinking about it because I do feel like. So you think that's the best team ever? [00:19:22] Speaker A: Yeah. 100 ever. [00:19:24] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:19:24] Speaker A: How many games we only lost? Like, I promise you, in two years, we only lost like one game. Again, we were like 40 and one. [00:19:31] Speaker B: That's crazy. [00:19:31] Speaker A: That's crazy. [00:19:32] Speaker B: That's crazy thing, bro. Obviously, too. You're the top. One of the top recruits out of can in 2021. What do you remember about, like, the recruiting process when it starts to get serious and you're willing down your options? Obviously, Syracuse is originally the first choice. But tell me about. Did you go on many visits? [00:19:48] Speaker A: No, I didn't actually, because it was covet. So to be honest, the reason how I ended up at Duke was because I wasn't hungry at the time. I was with Team Canada, and then I was just. I don't know, I was doing, obviously doing my thing and stuff like that. And then I was supposed to take my visits, but it wasn't going to work out because of, like, Covid and, you know, it had all the restrictions. So I don't know, I just hopped on that phone call and just like, all right, I'm gonna just go there. I didn't really have. I didn't want to really go on my visit search or anything because I was over the recruiting process at that point in time. So I just like, all right. [00:20:17] Speaker B: Did you, like, have a top five? Like, what was your list down? [00:20:20] Speaker A: Yeah, I think I had a top five at the time. I think it was like. I think Duke, Mississippi State. I think Ole Miss was on there. Baylor and some other team. Yeah, I don't know if it's like, UCLA or something like that. [00:20:35] Speaker B: But then you talked about obviously being overseas at the time, playing Fiber U19. Yeah, I'm looking through the stats. 18.1 points, 5.9 rebounds, 5.7 assists. Like, Canada, the fifth place finished there. Was it stressful? Like, you're competing there, and I'm guessing you're getting back to the hotel room and you're like, I gotta talk to this school. I gotta. You know, like, what was that? [00:20:52] Speaker A: Like, it was so hard, like, for real, like. And that's why I'm just saying, like, I just called Patrick one day. I'm like, man, Duke, I'm a Blue Devil. Like, because it's just. I don't want to just do the whole process over again. And plus, I'm just trying to focus on, you know, playing and all that so that stuff gets hard. But, yeah, I just. I gave, like, three days, and I'm like, all right, what was it. [00:21:13] Speaker B: What was it about Duke that made you decide there? Obviously a lot of rich history, too. [00:21:17] Speaker A: I just. I knew I could change the program, so that's what it was for me. I just, like, you know, Cara, too, Kara is just legendary. So I was just like, you know, she played the game at the highest level, and I'm just like, I could learn from her, and then I could also, as well, just, like, change the program. [00:21:33] Speaker B: What was it like playing over there? Two seasons, right? [00:21:35] Speaker A: Yeah, two seasons. Two seasons. It was good. Obviously. Freshman year, first year. [00:21:40] Speaker B: How'd you find out You. On freshman year? [00:21:42] Speaker A: To be honest, you know, I didn't even. Like, that was a thing. I didn't know. Like, how did you. Hey, no, like, I'm saying, you had. [00:21:50] Speaker B: To know you were like on the short list? [00:21:51] Speaker A: No, no, like freshman of the week. [00:21:53] Speaker B: Freshman week, Freshman week. [00:21:54] Speaker A: I was just playing. Like, I was just, you know, going out there every day and just trying to be my best self. But that's what it was. And then, you know, Carol called me one day. She's just like, come to my office. Right. And even that too. I'm scared, cuz every single time she call me in office, I'm like, am I in trouble? Like, they know that too. I was like, am I in trouble? Cuz it's like, you know, you get that call. But so I went there and then, you know, they show me a plaque, and I didn't really see the plaque, but she was explaining all the history behind and all that. So it's like, okay, you just want to explain this to me? But then after, when I was leaving, she's like, oh, this is yours to take. So everyone came out. Whatever. It's like a surprise. Everything. So then, boom. I just like, all right, Freshman year, Right. So, yeah. [00:22:36] Speaker B: What was that feeling like? [00:22:38] Speaker A: It was just a legendary moment because no one ever won that award, especially where I'm from. Right. It's just. It's legendary. [00:22:45] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:22:46] Speaker B: Obviously. You entered the transfer portal sophomore year. Tell me the decision behind that. In Miami reunion with. Yeah, Natasha, tell me about that too. How did the. And I want to also go through, like, what the. What's it like going into the portal? I'm guessing. [00:22:59] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:22:59] Speaker B: What's the process like? Schools hitting you up again? It's like kind of getting like, re. Recruited in a way. Right. But tell me the decision behind that. [00:23:05] Speaker A: Yeah, so I, you know, obviously it was a shock to everyone. Went into the portal and Yeah, I was just like, I just want to try something new. So, you know, recruiting process obviously start to get, you know, a little heavy again and all that. You know, people are blowing up your phone. But all in all is I just. I just wanted to just. [00:23:26] Speaker C: Who? Yeah. [00:23:27] Speaker A: You know, just win hoop. So I made decision to go to Miami, and obviously everyone, the chatty patties are like, oh, why is she transferring? All this and all that. This happens, right? So part of the journey. So I went over there and obviously, you know, I enjoyed my time. It was great. And it's not for the beach. People just think, oh, you go to Miami. [00:23:45] Speaker B: I was gonna ask you, what was the weather like? It wasn't hidden. [00:23:47] Speaker A: It was nice. The weather was nice. But I did not make a decision to go to Miami because of the beach. I made this a decision to go to Miami, because, you know, I had a chance to just, you know, hoop, and me and Katie, we were really good. You know, she knew my game, she studied me, and, you know, she just. She gave me the keys, and I was able to just play with my fellow Canadians, you know, two, three of them. Obviously, I had Tasha, too, as well, so it's just a good experience. [00:24:10] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:24:11] Speaker B: How quickly do schools kind of, like, reach out? Once you enter your name in a pearl, take me through the process and, like, what was, like, maybe the most surprising thing about, like, the transfer portal for you? Because you might be, like, one of the first to, like, experience it. Because obviously it's, like, it's now become a big thing. Like, now you see, like, everyone entering the portal. Right. Like, and I. Has been a big thing, but, like, I'm guessing you were probably one of the first experience. What was that process? [00:24:33] Speaker A: Like, this is crazy. You know, you have some people telling you some things, and obviously, and. But that's the thing about recruiting. But all in all, I just. There's some coaches that just sell you a dream, right? And that's not right, if that makes any sense. But I, like. I really liked and I respected when Katie. Katie had called me the coach from Miami or whatever she called me, she could. Kept it real. And I ended up just going on a visit there, and then I sat in her office, and this is what. Why she just. She kept it real to me because everything that she said on paper and what she said with her words match to what I did. You understand what I'm saying? She told me. She said, you're gonna get your shots from here. Here. This is how your game is. You know, you don't shoot the ball well from here. So you're gonna work on it. Like, you know, everything that she was telling me and all that, I agreed. And it was just manifestation and, you know, she just believed in me. So that's really why I just, like, all right, I'm gonna make this decision. [00:25:25] Speaker B: How many schools reached out when. When that happened, when you. When you entered the portal? [00:25:31] Speaker A: A lot. I. I can't even. Yeah, I lost. Yeah, I lost track. [00:25:34] Speaker B: So how much did you, like. How many schools did you actually, like, seriously consider? Is Miami any other schools or looked at? [00:25:40] Speaker A: It was. It was Miami. I considered Miami thing. I considered another school two. Like, two, three more. I think it was. I forgot. What. [00:25:51] Speaker B: Did you go on many visits or. [00:25:53] Speaker A: No, I did not. I went actually. Yeah, I went to Miami. I went to South Carolina, and then that was it. Yeah. [00:25:59] Speaker B: South Carolina would have been crazy. [00:26:01] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, it would have been good. [00:26:04] Speaker B: Obviously, you end up in Miami playing with Tasha. What was that like? Obviously you guys went to Crestwood together, grew up together, played Global Jam together just recently. How much was that a push? Was she recruiting you too, or she's like, yo. [00:26:17] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, of course. But that's the thing people don't understand about me and Tasha, obviously, is the behind the scenes stuff. But, you know, I never altered my decision on what school she was at. She never did that. You understand? It's just. [00:26:28] Speaker B: It's about fit. [00:26:30] Speaker A: Yeah, it's about fit. And that's what it really came down to. [00:26:33] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:26:33] Speaker B: How would you describe your guys's friendship? [00:26:35] Speaker A: It's great. She's my best friend. She's literally like my sister. You know, I talk to her every day. And she just. She's been with me through the journey. I've been with her through her journey. And, you know, she's gonna do big things this year at Ole Miss, so I'm really proud of her. [00:26:48] Speaker B: I was gonna say, what expectations do you have for her? Obviously, heading into her, I think, her final year, right. Ole Miss. [00:26:54] Speaker A: Yeah. SEC team, all the awards, talk to them. Everything like, you know, like, this is her year. And I was telling her that, and she knows that. Just her story is so, you know, people don't even know she came back from. I think it was an acl. You know, she tore her ACL twice or once? Once, Twice. Tore ACO twice. So it's just like that right there. Just shows, you know, shows how strong she is. And I'm just. I'm so proud of her, you know, because not a lot of people come back with the same mentality, come back with that same push. But that's just also what sister sisterhood is for. You know, I was with her through her journey. You know, she's with me through my journey. And that's just what it's all about. [00:27:32] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:27:32] Speaker B: I've seen her on some WNBA mock draft, so we'll keep an eye. Coming up soon. Obviously, Miami, you're there. What was it like playing over there? And you mentioned two, three Canadians there who've been doing your thing. What was like playing Miami? [00:27:48] Speaker A: It was great. Like, I don't understand how people, like, people have to understand it's so important to play with people like, you know. [00:27:56] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:27:56] Speaker B: And can get you in your right spot. [00:27:58] Speaker A: Yeah. Can get you right, like, the chemistry, you know, So I just. It was just a great experience. You know, I had Tasha with me. I Had Lashay with me. I had Lamaya. Like, we knew all, like, you know, so it's just like, now when it's time to go into battle, we're all riding for each other, you feel? I'm saying, because we all came from, like, the same area, all grew up together, so it's just such a wholesome feeling, man. [00:28:16] Speaker B: That's kind of cool, too, seeing that many Canadians on one roster, you know, you don't really see it, too. Especially in college, there's four of us. Or as you say, when you think about it, obviously, coach retires after one year. Did you have an idea that would happen? Like, was. Was that a shot? How'd you find out? [00:28:31] Speaker A: Yo, I'm on a plane. I was on a plane coming back home. [00:28:35] Speaker B: Oh, headed come from Miami. [00:28:36] Speaker A: Yes. So I was coming from Miami to Toronto, Right. And I had just came home to, like, decompress a little bit. Obviously, you know, season's over, you decompressing and stuff like that. I got the car. I fell to my knees in the airport. Like, there's just. I pierce it. Yeah. Like, yo. And then I was just. I was so in shock. But that's nothing. Just everything happens for a reason. [00:28:57] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:28:58] Speaker B: What was the reasoning? Do you know why? It was just like, hey, I did my thing. [00:29:01] Speaker A: Yeah. It was just, you know, she did her thing. She's legendary. You know, she's been there for, like, 20 plus years. [00:29:06] Speaker B: Just, you know, obviously happens. What's going through your mind, and it's like, okay, obviously there's going to be a change here. And, like, now, like, okay, do I want to make a change in scenery, too? Because, like, coaching staff might be different. That kind of stuff. What's going through your mind? [00:29:19] Speaker A: When that happened, I stayed at Miami, and then obviously, you know, new coach came in. Obviously, you know, got to talk to a new coach and stuff like that. And it just, you know, it kind of gave me, like, a different perspective. So then it just. It was a little different than. It's like, I gotta hit the portal again. Right? But that's the thing, like, you think a lot of people say, oh, she transferred three times, transferred four times. It's like, all right, okay. People are 27, still playing college basketball. It's not that bad. You understand what I'm saying? Like, so it's just like, sometimes you just got to do what you got to do, right? And I had no control. You can just control what you can control. And obviously, my coach retired. Now I got to hit the portal. [00:29:54] Speaker B: Again right in My eyes. You only enter the portal once. Like, people don't really think about it, and it's like the. When a coach retires, it's like you have to decide what's best for you. Mostly. Usually when coach, coaches leave, the whole roster changes. [00:30:07] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:30:08] Speaker B: The entire roster is gone. So. [00:30:10] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:30:11] Speaker B: Lsu. How did that become the option? Because that's also a legendary program, too. [00:30:16] Speaker A: Yeah. You know, legendary program, obviously. And then I took my visit there and, you know, got to lead eight schools. All right. [00:30:27] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:30:27] Speaker B: What's the biggest thing you learned? Just about, like, the portal itself, doing it twice. [00:30:31] Speaker A: Yeah. The biggest thing I learned about the portal twice is just, you know, you can't trust everyone. [00:30:37] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:30:37] Speaker A: And sometimes what they say is not what it is. [00:30:40] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:30:40] Speaker A: And that's just. [00:30:41] Speaker B: What's the craziest thing that, like, you don't have to name the school, but, like, maybe they were promising that you're like, there's no way in hell that this is what. You know, what it has to be, or. [00:30:49] Speaker A: Yeah, it was like, yeah, you're gonna come here. You're gonna get to be shy, right? You're gonna be shy. Dave Wilson. It's just like, I didn't get to be shy there, Wilson. You know, you. You put the chains on me. You put the cuffs on me. So I feel like that right there, all in all, is just like, that's just cap, you know, But a lot of schools just be capping you because they know, like, you're a good player or whatever, so they start promising you things or whatever. But it's just like, I never would have thought someone would lie about that. You know, that's like the simplest thing. You can't really lie about that if it's about, you know, other things, whatever. Yeah, maybe. But, you know, my game, obviously. Right. But. [00:31:24] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:31:25] Speaker B: What was it like? Obviously, go from scoring guards, kind of like a facilitator at lsu. How did you adjust to that? Different system and then expectations, too. [00:31:34] Speaker A: Yeah. Just had to adjust. Right. It's a system. So, you know, like I told you, I'm just. I'm working every day on being a pro. And, you know, one thing about being a pro is you just have to be able to adjust. So I was. I think I was able to adjust. [00:31:48] Speaker B: And favorite moment from that tournament run. Elite eight. [00:31:51] Speaker A: Yeah. Is when I. I got two back to back stops in the Sweet sixteen. [00:31:55] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:31:56] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:31:56] Speaker B: I seen a photo you with, like, the ref going like, yeah, that's a legendary photo. Obviously. Obviously talked about, played at Duke, Miami, lsu. What'd you take away from each stop playing there? [00:32:12] Speaker A: To be honest, they're all different styles, right? You know, Duke, Miami, acc, they like the Gold, Right. And then lsu, sec. Kind of like a different system, you know, not a lot of plays and stuff like that. It's just different type of basketball. Right. So it's just like. I feel like that's the thing about college. A lot of people, but in some coaches, they believe in the, you know, four out, one in and stuff like that, and not a. Like, every system is just different. So just being able to just adjust, it's just the best thing. [00:32:43] Speaker B: I was gonna ask you, favorite moment in college that you had that you look back on? It's like, yo, I wish I could relive that. That moment. [00:32:51] Speaker A: Oh, I've had a lot, I'm not gonna lie. But I'll say probably my favorite moment. Yeah. It'll be. It'll have to be either me making it to lead eight or when I was at Duke. [00:33:17] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:33:18] Speaker A: Yeah. When I was at Duke. [00:33:19] Speaker B: Yeah. What was obviously talking about the elite. [00:33:21] Speaker A: Eight is when I was at Duke playing North Carolina. That's a favorite. [00:33:24] Speaker B: Okay, tell me about. Tell me about the rivalry between those two teams. [00:33:26] Speaker A: Yeah. What was that like that right there? [00:33:28] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:33:29] Speaker B: Is all trash talk. [00:33:31] Speaker A: Not even that. Fans are crazy. [00:33:33] Speaker B: Yeah. What was that like? [00:33:34] Speaker A: That's something I definitely wish I could relate. Yes. Yes. [00:33:37] Speaker B: What was it like? Was it just like people yelling? [00:33:39] Speaker A: Yo, when I tell you, people coming out of curtains, I'm on the free throw line, there's someone jumping out of curtain, bro. Like, they're opening up a curtain and someone's jumping out of the curtain, bro. So it's like, yo, I'm trying to make my free throw, but I see a man up top jumping out of the curtains like, come on, that's insane. So it's just like. But then also too, you know, the refs are into it, the fans, everything. And you're just in North Carolina. And I'm not gonna lie, their rims are sweet. I like the rims. Yeah. Like, every single time I went to North Carolina, I had 20 plus. [00:34:05] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:34:05] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:34:06] Speaker B: That's crazy. [00:34:07] Speaker A: But it was just that rivalry right there. [00:34:09] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:34:09] Speaker A: Something special. [00:34:10] Speaker B: That's crazy. Any tough players you played against? The college? Anybody like, you know what, this person's tough. I'll give it to them. Like, you know, they did their thing. [00:34:19] Speaker A: Caitlin Clark, when I was a freshman. [00:34:20] Speaker B: What was it like watching Iowa, though? [00:34:22] Speaker A: That's something I wish I could relive, too. [00:34:23] Speaker B: I'm not Going. [00:34:24] Speaker A: I had some big moments. That's what I'm saying. At Duke I had some. [00:34:26] Speaker B: Let's go through it. So. So tell me about the Iowa game. [00:34:28] Speaker A: Iowa game is just obviously me. Like no one really. So that was the thing. Like I just came to like I was on the radar. I wasn't on nothing. Like I remember in high school I was ranked like, I don't even know what my ranking was. Like I didn't really pay attention to that. But. [00:34:40] Speaker B: But also I think it's different too cuz like in Canada you played in. Unless you go to the States, like they'll rank. [00:34:45] Speaker A: I played in the States too. [00:34:46] Speaker B: No, but like unless you play. I don't know what it is. Unless you play high school basketball, they don't rank Canadians that high. Like I'm thinking like Aamic here. She went over there, silent, went over there. Like they're ranked high cuz they played in the, in the States, you know what I'm saying? But like if you play in Canada it's like, I don't know, maybe it's different with the women's on the men's side. I know, it's like I spoke to one person, they're like, yeah, we do not rank Canadians high because we want to see them against like on a day to day basis against USA competition. So that's probably why you didn't see yourself like that high. But I feel like, you know, everybody knew. [00:35:15] Speaker A: Yeah, but that's the thing, like it was just so crazy. Like we played Iowa, I'm a freshman, you know, obviously my assignments to guard. [00:35:22] Speaker B: Caitlin. [00:35:23] Speaker A: Caitlin Clark, like shooter from half court. [00:35:25] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:35:26] Speaker B: So how do you have a game plan for that? What was the game plan for that? [00:35:28] Speaker A: Just pick her up full court. Pick her up full court. Because that's the thing, when she comes over half court, she's shooting it for far, you know what I'm saying? So it's just, you know, try to pick her up from half court and then, you know, put a lot of pressure on her and stuff like that. And obviously me, I'm freshman, I'm jittery, right. I'm ready for the moment. So I feel like that all in all was just crazy. And you know, we beat them when they were, I think they were ranked number 8th in the country. So then that's when our rankings start to go up and then obviously everyone start to like tune in more. And that's just the start of it. And then I ended up playing South Carolina a week later. [00:35:58] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:35:58] Speaker B: And what was la. [00:36:01] Speaker A: I was cooking, like. Yeah, I was cooking. Had like 18 or something like that. And then I also got to play Leticia, so that was good. Like, they had her running point guard, so it's like me guarding Leticia. Like, look at that. [00:36:12] Speaker B: How long have you known her for? [00:36:13] Speaker A: Known her for a long time. Yeah, I played against her in high school, too, when she was at Kings Christian. And. Yeah. [00:36:18] Speaker B: Yeah, she's playing where? With the Valkyrie? Yeah, right now they're in the playoffs. Any other moments? College. You look back at, we talking about Caitlin Cart, we talking about South Carolina, we talking about Duke, UNC and any other moments? [00:36:33] Speaker A: Probably, yeah. When I was at Miami, too. Oh, yeah, we were in the. So we ended up playing UNC too, again when I was on Miami. So anytime. Anytime I played unc, it was smoke. Like, it didn't matter if I was wearing a blue, you know, a Duke jersey. It was just always smoke. Like. [00:36:49] Speaker B: So were you playing at unc? [00:36:51] Speaker A: I was playing. [00:36:51] Speaker B: So you love the ribs? Yeah, the ribs are. [00:36:55] Speaker A: But we ended up playing them, and then I just went off that game and then we ended up seeing them in the acc, the tournament. Ended up playing them first round or whatever, and then we beat them. We came, but we came back from, like, we were down by like 15 or something, you know, at the half. And then we just locked in. We just like, bro, we going to play for each other. So ended up beating them by like two or something in overtime. Was crazy. [00:37:16] Speaker B: Yeah, that's crazy. Any, like, if you have to make your starting five, if I give you a college players that you played or with or against, what's your starter five. [00:37:25] Speaker A: Looking like, played with or against or against? [00:37:28] Speaker B: Yeah. If you, like, had to form a team, you know, around you. Point guard, Cheyenne Day Wilson. All right, who's next? [00:37:33] Speaker A: Point guard? Me. Shooting guard. [00:37:39] Speaker B: Would you put Caitlin there? [00:37:41] Speaker A: I would be. [00:37:41] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:37:42] Speaker A: I'm for the calendar. Shooting guard. [00:37:44] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:37:45] Speaker A: I need a three now. Damn. I put. Put Juju. [00:37:52] Speaker C: Juju. [00:37:53] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah, Put Juju. Put Tasha. My four now as my five. My five. I'm gonna put. [00:38:03] Speaker C: Ooh. [00:38:05] Speaker A: I'm gonna put Sarah strong. [00:38:08] Speaker B: Sarah strong? Oh, yeah, she's tough. UConn. Damn. And you guys are running the table with that lineup. Oh, that's a tough team. You talked about, obviously, playing in the States. What was that like? Were there many teams, like, when you're going in high school as a kid, sisters keepers, what was it like going over there and like. Like playing against the competition over there and obviously, like, I guess you guys Might have been the first people kind of going over there to play. [00:38:33] Speaker A: Yeah, it was just. It was crazy because it's just like, just traveling. Just like, even like when we're in au. Right. Like, I can't. I'm not making this up. We had like a hundred coaches on our court, right? So it was just. It's crazy. So that's kind of what made me realize, like, there's levels to this. Like, you know what I mean? Like, you don't. You're not looking at other courts and you see, like, people, bro, we had, like, the most coaches and we're playing like, that was another thing. We never ran from smoke. So a lot of people going, like, the B division, C division, we were playing like EYBL teams. Like, we. We were going to. What's that? Boo Williams. Like, we're playing those people, like, you know, Exodus and all that. I'll never forget. Gave Exodus the business. [00:39:15] Speaker B: Yeah, he was on that team. [00:39:16] Speaker A: Gave him the business. I don't remember at the time, but I just know I was in Texas acting bad, I'm telling you. So that was the thing. And then, okay, probably a day before that, we had played Angel Reese's team. I forgot what team. Takeover. Oh, my God. We got slapped. But it's just like, even just the. [00:39:31] Speaker B: You didn't run from it. [00:39:32] Speaker A: Yeah, we didn't run from it. Like, we never ran from smoke. Sometimes some days we're getting slapped by 20, some days, you know, we're winning by how much ever. But it was just like we were a team. We. We weren't afraid of nothing. And that's what Patrick had built. You know, a lot of teams, they're trying to have these cupcake schedules. It's just like, bro, play who you're gonna play. And don't try to flex when you're beating these teams by 50. But you're playing the B division. You feel what I'm saying? It's like, play the people that are tough or whatever. Okay, you win. Obviously, that's when you get your respect. Right. But a lot of these people, I feel like nowadays just be trying to have cupcakes. Like, bro, don't run from the smoke. Don't say, oh, I want the smoke. And you're running from it. Like, come on, bro. [00:40:05] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. [00:40:06] Speaker B: It's crazy, too, because now I feel like now there's so many teams that are going to play in the States now. [00:40:10] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:40:10] Speaker B: What's it like seeing that too? Like, seeing the. There's. I feel like a team in Every circuit. Adidas, Nike, Under Armour. Like, there's a team from Canada. At least there's a team now. What's it like seeing that too? Especially like, you guys were doing that beforehand. [00:40:23] Speaker A: It's just the evolution of, you know, basketball in Canada for women's. Right. Just like, I feel like it's just evolving every single day. And that's starting at, you know, Crestwood, Royal Crown. That's starting at all these. You feel. I'm like, those are the top two programs in Canada for, you know, women's basketball right now. [00:40:38] Speaker B: Are you tapped in? Are you. Are you watching games? [00:40:39] Speaker A: I'm tapped in, yeah. For sure. Like when. When Crown and Crystal play each other. You know what I'm saying? [00:40:43] Speaker B: What's that? Like, are you there? [00:40:45] Speaker A: Yeah. All right, I'mma check it out. But obviously, you know, I went to both of those schools, so who are you rooting for? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I just know I'm supporting both, right? It's women's basketball. Support them both. It's love. [00:41:00] Speaker B: But, yeah, yeah, it's crazy to. Because obviously you covered here. You're at Crown. [00:41:05] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:41:05] Speaker B: What was that like that year, especially now, like, seeing what the program has become now just won a championship, I feel like, was an nph even on the men's side, like. Like, the amount of chips they've won is kind of crazy seeing what the program has become, what you're there from, like, I think the early stages, too. What was that like? [00:41:23] Speaker A: Yo, I Loki used to, like, really say Covid was the worst thing that happened. But honestly, when I look back at it all, it was probably the best thing that happened. [00:41:31] Speaker B: Tell why? [00:41:31] Speaker A: Because I was at Crown, right? So I was at Crown. Obviously we weren't playing a lot and whatever, but I was still around girls that were good. So it's like we're running fours and fives or whatever. And then also, too, I just got a chance to just really, like, double down and just focus on myself. And that's when I had made that crazy run on Team Canada, because I was spending all that time, like, you know, I was going to class maybe in the mornings or whatever, but I was working out 7am with Alex Johnson. Like, we were in the gym, in the lab. So it just gave me a chance to just really focus on my own game. I feel like that's what I like so much is just when I. I'm able to just focus on me, you know, like, focus on my weaknesses, what I need to get better at. So that's just really what Happened and then just hold the whole time in covet. I was just itching to play. Itching to play because I'm a competitor, right? But all in all, it was just. I was around girls that just were hungry every single day. You know, we're just competing. [00:42:19] Speaker B: So that was the best feeling, finishing off at lsu. Graduated. [00:42:23] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:42:23] Speaker B: Tell me about that, man. Let's talk about it. [00:42:25] Speaker A: Graduated, bro. [00:42:25] Speaker B: Hey, bachelor's degree, yo. [00:42:27] Speaker A: Talk to him. I'm not gonna lie. The day I graduated. [00:42:32] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:42:32] Speaker A: Was the day I just said I did it. Because it's just like, for the long four years, it's just like, bro, every single year, I'm just like, yeah, I can't do school. I can't do it anymore. Right? But it's just like, I don't know. [00:42:42] Speaker B: How you guys juggle it with, like, the travel, the. The plane from city to city. You guys take planes, though? [00:42:49] Speaker C: No. [00:42:49] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:42:49] Speaker B: Oh, you guys. Different lifestyles. Like, yeah, the college money is different. But, like, you know, I'm saying, like, you gotta be on top of your assignments, and you're like, you gotta prepare for, like, a top matchup, and. And you're ranked and you're going to the elite eight. [00:43:00] Speaker A: Like, yo, you say all that right, it'll sound like, okay, you. You're, like, making some logic, right? But if I was to say that. Oh, yeah, you're complaining, but it is what it is, right? You know, you have all that stuff you're trying to juggle, time management, all that stuff. Right? But it's just like, yo, I did it. [00:43:14] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:43:15] Speaker A: I graduated. [00:43:16] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:43:16] Speaker B: What'd you graduate? [00:43:17] Speaker A: I graduated with some Call it. So it was like, entrepreneurial discipline studies. It was like, three minors into, like, one major, so it was sociology. [00:43:26] Speaker B: You did it all. [00:43:27] Speaker A: Yeah, Sociology, Communication and psychology. [00:43:30] Speaker B: Yeah, Communications. You might work in pr. [00:43:32] Speaker A: Yeah. Hey, Hey. I want to actually be a sports broadcaster, so I want to be. [00:43:37] Speaker B: Yeah, I guess you keep up with the wnb, that kind of stuff. Temple coming to the city next year. How excited are you for that? And, like, what do you think it's going to bring, like, the vibe into the city. And, you know, I feel like we haven't, like, women's basketball in Toronto since you were doing your thing. It hasn't been really, like, you know. You know what? My issue. I've said this on the podcast before. My issue is shout out to Royal Crown in Scarborough, but there's nothing downtown, you know, like, there's nothing, like, where's the hoops that I grew up with, like, the Eastern Commerce. The. The Oakwoods. You know what I'm talking about? Yeah, those. Now there's a school in Niagara. There's a school in school everywhere for Erie. Like, I'm not trying to travel there to watch hoops, like, you know what I'm saying? But you know what? World Crown is pretty close. Not too far. It's just, you know, it's a little drive on the. On the dvp. But what's that like, the. Having a women's basketball team in the heart of the city. [00:44:26] Speaker A: So when I was about just starting 8, 9 years old, people told me, hey, going to WNBA. Going to WNBA, right? Just like. Like I told you before, I thought I was going to the NBA right from when I was younger. So now to just be able to be like, yo, we got a WNBA team coming. It's just. It's so crazy. It's just wholesome because it's just like, for the longest time, that was my dreams and aspirations from when I was, like, a kid just starting. I was like, man, I want. I want to go to the league. So, you know, just to be able to just have Temple coming to Toronto. It's just the city needs that. [00:44:53] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:44:54] Speaker B: I want to talk about. We kind of talked about how you're pioneer. That kind of. So you said you weren't looking at it that way. I feel like you're too humble in a way, which I'm. Which I feel like. Which is great, obviously, but how do you feel? Like your success kind of like, helped spotlight women's basketball in the city? Because people, like, they'll see your highlights and be like, I want to be like that. You know what I'm saying? Like, people would watch you hoop and be like, I want to be the next guy. And David Wilson, like, yeah. I'm guessing people have approached you and said that, have they? Like, what's that? And what's your. Are you like. More like. I don't know what to say to this. Like, what's that? [00:45:25] Speaker A: Like, yeah, sometimes I'm just grateful, you know? So crazy. I literally sit with my little nephew and stuff like that. And he's getting older, right? And he even knows who I am now. So just seeing that right there. He's four. He's three years old. Four years old. You know, he don't really know, but every single day, he's nagging me in my ears, Auntie, I want to play basketball. I want to play basketball, right? Because he sees me doing it. So just like, I feel like there's pros and cons to that, because a lot of girls, they may want to be the next me, but there will never be a next me, if that makes any sense. You understand what I'm saying? Yeah, because it's just the things I've done and the. The. You know, the experiences I've been through is just. I've done that so they can walk a path, you know, and be able to just do it. So I feel like judges will never be another me. And that's not. Not trying to be arrogant about it. Just, you know, everyone has their own path. It's just like there will never be another Michael Jordan. There will never be another Kobe. Right. So it's just like, I feel like everyone just has their own journey. I feel like everyone should just try to accomplish something and just dream of something and just dream big and just create their own path. [00:46:26] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:46:26] Speaker B: And I think it's too. It's cool, too, because now I'll see a dozen, like, scouts at Royal Crown at Crestwood to scout the next women's basketball player coming out of Canada. [00:46:35] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:46:36] Speaker B: Was there, like, a lot of that stuff happening when you were coming out or, like, where now? Like, they would see you play, you'd see. They'd see you cross the border, come play against the States, and be like, we got scout for Canada. Like, this is the talent's coming up. What was that like when the wave of talent. You talked about yourself, you talk about Aaliyah, you talk about Latasha coming in Crestwood, how dynasty of that program was when you guys were there. What's it like now, seeing, like, a dozen coaches coming to scout in, like, the places that you were bringing up the programs. You know what I'm saying? [00:47:01] Speaker A: It's just so. It's so beautiful to watch because, like I told you around even that time, no one was really trying to pay attention to women's basketball and all that, but it's just like, you know, me, Tasha Lee, and stuff like that. We kind of. We just built it, like, you know, and that's just great for, you know, the younger generation to come up. And I feel like that's just kind of why you do things in life. You just want, you know, the younger generation just to, you know, get the confidence and, you know, just want to play basketball. I have a lot of people, like you said, like, just being like, oh, I want to beat another Shy Day Wilson, or I want to beat another, you know, but it's just like, all in all, you should just want to be better than Me. And I feel like even Chance, you know Chance. You know Chance. [00:47:37] Speaker B: Yeah, of course. [00:47:38] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:47:38] Speaker B: Next one up. [00:47:39] Speaker A: You know, talk about her. Yeah, she even, you know, that's my young girl, but she's even, like, just walking a path by herself, and she's trying to do it. And, you know, obviously people try to compare to me or whatever, but the advice I just give her is just, you want to be your own person. You just want to be transparent. So I feel like, you know, she's coming along. [00:47:58] Speaker B: What's your potential? [00:47:59] Speaker A: Proud of her potential is, you know, the ceiling's high for that kid. And, you know, I don't even know what grade she's in. Whatever. And that's the thing. Even when I was growing up and stuff like that, I used to play against people I was in probably the third grade, playing against people that were in 10th grade, stuff like that. It's just like, that kid, she literally kind of reminds me of myself a little bit. Right? And it's just like, to be able to. Just to mentor her and just be. Be by her side. It's just. It's really nice. [00:48:22] Speaker B: What's the biggest advice you give to the players coming up now? Like. Like, do you get messages? People like, yeah, like, yeah, how do I get to. To where you're at? How do I go play college basketball? How do I get all these offers? Like, I had Marlon podcast. He was talking about how, like, there won't be another person like you. [00:48:36] Speaker A: Right? Yeah. [00:48:37] Speaker B: What was like, also play for him, but also, like, you talked about, no one was getting offers like you at that time. [00:48:43] Speaker A: Marlo. Marlo's my boy, obviously. You know, he coached me at Crestwood for three years. But, you know, just. Even him, too, was just like, when I was coming up and stuff like that, he just, you know, he was real hard. He just wanted the best for me. And I feel like just what he did over at Chris was just legendary. And, like, even people nag him, too. Just like, how can my kid be the, you know, next shy day was, how can my kid be the next Leah Edwards Latasha Lattimore? It's like, I feel like a lot of these parents, they just. They're just caught up in, you know, something. It's just like, you should just always want your. Like, some people. I'm going to be real with you, though. And I said this the other day, and someone was asking me a question. Parent was coming to me, and I was just like, you should have your kid come to me, not you come to Me, because it's like, now you want to dream for your kid more than your kid wants to dream. You understand? I feel like a lot of people get lost in that. It's just like, if you want to dream for yourself, you should want it for yourself. Your mom shouldn't want it more for you than you want it for yourself. And I feel like that's kind of what's the. You know, a lot of cons nowadays, it's just like a lot of people just don't really want it. And I feel like a lot of girls or some people that want, or some people that don't. But. [00:49:48] Speaker B: Yeah, I was gonna ask you, too. Just how do you want people in Toronto basketball or just like, Canadian basketball circles to describe your Legacy? Like, say, 15 years from now, 20 years from now? How do you want people to talk about Sharon Day Wilson? [00:50:03] Speaker A: Just legendary, humble, you know, I don't know. I just want to. Just want to be a legend in the city. I just want to. I want to be a Hall of Famer when it's all said and done. [00:50:13] Speaker B: Hey, man, they got to put you on the osba. Yeah, they gotta. They gotta invite you to a ceremony. Yeah, like that whole roster back, you know, like. [00:50:19] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:50:20] Speaker B: Put you guys up somewhere. I was gonna ask you, too, obviously, growing up in the city, what's your top five? If you had to come up with, like, a top five? Let's start with women's basketball. Top five. Start with that, and then we'll get you on the men's side. Give me your top five. [00:50:34] Speaker A: Okay. In Canada, it don't matter from the generations or don't matter. [00:50:37] Speaker B: No generations. It's. It's. You could. You could pick, like, denim brown like we talked about. [00:50:42] Speaker A: Five for women. [00:50:44] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:50:46] Speaker A: Me, Alicia, Tatum. [00:50:48] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:50:50] Speaker B: What do you know about them? [00:50:52] Speaker A: I grew up with them, too. Like, you know, they're at falsehaps of that. Patrick used to have a woman's run. [00:50:57] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:50:58] Speaker A: So that's kind of where I started, like, playing basketball and being physical. And, yo, they were like 30 or something. I was just like 11 years old. One time I got an elbow. I think it was Tamara had. Gave me. Tamara Tatum, she gave me a mean elbow, like, right in my. My mouth. And I went to patch. I'm like, ah. Like, you know, he's like, hey, you want to play with the big girls? And you know what I mean? You got to play with the big girls. So I feel like just. Even just being around them. And, you know, Kalisha Keane, she's definitely Top five, for sure. So I got four right there. Yep. [00:51:30] Speaker B: So it's you. Tatum Keen. [00:51:32] Speaker C: Who else? [00:51:33] Speaker A: Two Tatum sisters are in there. Yeah, both. [00:51:36] Speaker B: Damn. Yeah, to Mariana. That's crazy. [00:51:39] Speaker A: That's crazy thing about Brittany Miller. Five. [00:51:42] Speaker C: Okay. [00:51:42] Speaker B: That's five. Okay. [00:51:43] Speaker A: Okay. [00:51:43] Speaker B: And you guys are running circles, huh? [00:51:45] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:51:46] Speaker B: Yo, and the men's. [00:51:48] Speaker A: Men's. All right. [00:51:49] Speaker B: Because you were. I'm saying, I'm asking this because you were in the gym with a lot of them. You saw a lot of these guys work out before they became NBA stars. You know, you saw the Wiggins, you saw the RJ's. I guess you saw the Nem Hards. [00:51:59] Speaker A: Like, Yep. [00:51:59] Speaker B: Tell me about. What's your five? [00:52:01] Speaker A: I'm a star. Shay. [00:52:02] Speaker B: Shay, of course. Mvp. You gotta go with that. [00:52:06] Speaker A: It was so crazy because just looking back at it, a lot of people are just saying, like, yeah, he's not gonna pan out. He's not gonna be good. He's too skinny and all that. It's just like, yo, a lot of people are sitting on their couch eating their words, yo. You know what I'm saying? Because just like, I feel like you just don't know someone's potential. And I like, you just never know someone's potential. And it's just like, him too. Like, he's just a hard worker. [00:52:25] Speaker B: Hard worker. [00:52:26] Speaker A: Like, he works stories. [00:52:27] Speaker B: That guy wakes up at like 5, 6am, works out in Burlington. Like, those. I could never. You know. [00:52:32] Speaker A: But you know him. Andrew. [00:52:36] Speaker B: Andrew. [00:52:37] Speaker A: Andrew. [00:52:38] Speaker B: Them hard on Andrew Nemahard. Okay, tell me about Nemart. [00:52:41] Speaker A: Nice. Yeah, that's my boy. But he's nice. [00:52:42] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:52:43] Speaker A: Yo, I watched. You're so crazy. I watched the whole. The whole finals. Everything. Yeah, straps. Yeah, that guy had. What's his name, bro? He had him on straps. Oh, what's his name? Brunson or whatever. [00:52:53] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:52:54] Speaker A: Like, Brunson was still hooping or whatever, but, yo, to play defense on him and then go to the next game and play. Yeah, that's hard. [00:53:03] Speaker B: It's tough. [00:53:04] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:53:04] Speaker B: That's how he had a crazy, like, step back on Shay. I forget what game it was. Might have been game one or one of one. I forgot what game exactly. It was. It was a nasty one to the left side. Yeah. So Nem Hard. You watched him too early on, huh? [00:53:16] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. But you know those two. [00:53:19] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:53:20] Speaker A: Rj. [00:53:20] Speaker B: Rj. [00:53:21] Speaker A: RJ Bear. [00:53:21] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:53:24] Speaker A: Got two more. [00:53:25] Speaker B: So that's your. You got Shay. Rj. [00:53:27] Speaker A: Denim Brown. Denim Brown, junior Cadugan. [00:53:29] Speaker B: General. Cadugan. [00:53:29] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:53:30] Speaker B: Talk about Cadugan. Because I feel like people talk about his legacy in the city. You watch now? [00:53:34] Speaker A: Oh, I used to watch him when he came to Falstaff. I remember he's like a short, kind of stocky guard, so, you know, he just gets to his spots. Denim brown, Same thing. So nice. Like, he had this high jumper. Like, I used to be like, he shoots, like, from his head or something like that. And it's just like, even when I was younger, I used to be like. Like, how do you. How do you do that? I would ask him, like, you know, your shot's so pure and just like, yo, no one can guard him. Yeah, it was nice. [00:54:00] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:54:00] Speaker B: Obviously. Talking about playing for Canada, basketball this past summer. What's next now for you? [00:54:04] Speaker A: Just going pro. That's my biggest thing, you know, Sign the contract. Going pro. [00:54:10] Speaker B: Where do you want to play? Is it like a. People talk about going to Spain. The weather over there, that kind of Spain. [00:54:16] Speaker A: France, China. [00:54:17] Speaker C: Yeah, Yeah. [00:54:18] Speaker B: I can see a friend. Can you speak some French, though? [00:54:24] Speaker A: We survive. [00:54:25] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:54:25] Speaker B: Hell, yeah. Hell, yeah, man. [00:54:27] Speaker C: You got. [00:54:27] Speaker B: You got. Hey, that's all you need, really. I was ordered. I was. I was in Paris not too long ago, so I enjoyed it. The Eiffel Tower, you see, I got the crazy crepes. [00:54:37] Speaker A: Okay. All right. I'm with you all. [00:54:39] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:54:39] Speaker A: Strawberry. Strawberry, Nutella. [00:54:41] Speaker B: I don't know about strawberry. I'm allergic to nuts, so I can't even eat Nutella. I gotta give them, like, the Kit Kat chocolate version, you know? [00:54:46] Speaker A: Okay. Okay. [00:54:47] Speaker B: So. But, yeah, have you been to France? [00:54:49] Speaker A: Yeah, I've been to Paris, actually, twice. I went there with Miami, then I went there with lsu. [00:54:54] Speaker B: What was that like? [00:54:55] Speaker A: I'm in Paris. [00:54:57] Speaker B: Let me ask you this. [00:54:57] Speaker A: I was at the Eiffel Tower, so. [00:54:58] Speaker B: But let me. Let me ask you this. When you saw the Eiffel Tower the first time, were you. Were you like, yo, I was kind of like. When I saw. For the first time, I was like, it's not hidden. [00:55:07] Speaker A: Yeah, Okay. I went in a. Night. Night. [00:55:09] Speaker B: Okay, Night. When I saw night, I was like, this is. Yeah, this is advertised. But when I saw it during the day, I was like, yeah, you know what? This looks like another building. [00:55:16] Speaker A: You know, like, nothing really looks good in the day, I'm not gonna lie. But when I seen that in the night, I'm like, okay, this is what they be talking about. [00:55:22] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:55:22] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:55:23] Speaker B: That's crazy. Any other places you've traveled to that you're like, yo, this is a spot. You were in Miami recently, too. What's Miami, like you go often, I'm. [00:55:31] Speaker A: Guessing, always go off. Yeah, I love Miami. [00:55:33] Speaker B: What's about Miami? [00:55:35] Speaker A: Just the vibes, like no one really bothers you. You get to just decompress there. You know, I have my trainer down there too. So it's just. It's just a great little vibe. You know, I could kick back on the beach and you know, I could go eat food, the fashion there too. I go shopping there a lot. Just nice. It's nice to be in Miami. [00:55:55] Speaker B: Obviously we talked about Canada basketball going to be playing in the November window. International basketball. How physical is it? Like, tell me about it. Like just like the. How you gotta adjust to that style of play and you're kind of facing sometimes like grown, grown women. [00:56:10] Speaker A: Grown woman 3. You know, there's a 40 year old one time, 40 kids at home. [00:56:17] Speaker B: College. [00:56:18] Speaker A: You're like, yo, that's what I'm saying. It's just like the physicality was just so much different and it's just like, it's not really. Okay. Yeah, you play U19 and stuff like that. But I'm talking about when you play on the women's. Yeah, they let you just go. Like one time a girl like, I promise you, kid, you not was pushing me, like physically like pushed me, okay? She pushed me one time, all right? The rift and call. Pushed me twice and then she put two hands on me and chucked me in for the ref. No foul, no nothing. I literally went to rev, say yo bro, three times like, okay, you know, and it's just like I don't understand English. So. Yo. And it's like, what can I say to him, right? But you know, a lot of them do understand English. They'd be capping, right? But he just hit me with that and hit you with that, you know. [00:56:59] Speaker B: So you don't even argue. [00:57:02] Speaker A: So it's just like, it's real physical. But I like that. Yeah, I like to, you know, I. [00:57:05] Speaker B: Was asking a competitor, what do you prefer, like feeble style or college? [00:57:08] Speaker A: Like what's that College kind of Same feeble style 100. [00:57:11] Speaker B: What is it about feeble style? [00:57:13] Speaker A: You get to just compete, right? It's like all the pushing and all that, that kind of gives you like fuel, right? Because I'll never forget I was in Argentina games. I'm like that recently in Chile and they were talking too. Like they were talking, they were pushing. They're, you know, they were acting. A lot of those girls are actors. I don't know but they were like flopping like one time I Think something happened. And then they just kept on, like, letting us play. Like, I don't know, the refs just let you play. And that's what I like, because it's just like, I feel like in college, like, I could be, like, bodying up to someone they're gonna call foul. Like, come on. [00:57:42] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:57:42] Speaker A: It's just, you know, different type of basketball stuff. [00:57:45] Speaker B: The Argentina game was crazy, too. You guys went to. Was it double ot, Double ot, Double ot. Game winner. My favorite thing was, sadly, that was like, the. The reaction from Argentina. Oh, did you see how sad? Like, you could tell how much it meant to them, you know, losing you. [00:57:59] Speaker A: Guys drawing back with someone in the crowd or something like that. He there saying crazy stuff, talking crazy. And then after the game, you know, he's just giving that smile and he's. [00:58:10] Speaker B: Just like, yeah, Chili, have you been there before? Was that like. [00:58:14] Speaker A: No, that was my first time. That's what I'm saying. Like, the things that. The places that basketball takes you is just like. [00:58:19] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:58:20] Speaker A: So crazy, because I never thought I'd end up in Chile. Like, let's be so for real. But just being out there in Chile is just so nice. [00:58:25] Speaker B: Good food. [00:58:26] Speaker A: Yeah, good food, for sure. [00:58:28] Speaker B: What type of food are you eating all day? [00:58:29] Speaker A: I was eating, like, some chicken and rice. They had some steaks out there, too. But everything, it was just like, their pasta is really good out there too. [00:58:35] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:58:35] Speaker B: That's crazy. Obviously, playing for Canada, basketball, We talked about that. What's it are a lot of it now? Are you gonna be going to a lot of games? Not watching in the city? I know you're in the city for a bit now. [00:58:46] Speaker A: Yeah, I'm gonna say for a bit. Yeah. Huh. I'm gonna be, you know, just trying to give back to the younger generation now and just, like, you know, giving them advice, whatever they need, just being there. So I'm up at real crown every day, just perfecting my craft. [00:58:58] Speaker B: Are you in the. In the practice sessions? I know. High school season. [00:59:02] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:59:02] Speaker B: Are you killing them? [00:59:03] Speaker A: Are you like, I'm in there talking trash. I'm in there going crazy. [00:59:06] Speaker C: Right? [00:59:07] Speaker A: But no, it's just like, that's something that I've always wanted to do, too, because like you said, just being, like, a pioneer and all that. Just like, I never had that growing up. I never had a mentor. I never had, you know, someone coming and telling me stuff. So just to be able to just be that for them is just so much to me. [00:59:23] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:59:24] Speaker B: Talk about the drip. [00:59:25] Speaker A: Drip. [00:59:26] Speaker B: Talk about the drip. Now, okay, what you got on? I feel like, hey, that's worth more than look people. If you, if you listen to the podcast. You gotta go check the IG after this because she's wearing some expensive stuff. Is it the nil? [00:59:38] Speaker A: Nah, nah, nah. [00:59:39] Speaker B: The nil was kicking in. [00:59:41] Speaker A: I've been had this drip. That's the thing. Like, look at this. A lot of people when they get the nil, you'll see it, right? I've been had this, like, you know, I've been dripped out. [00:59:50] Speaker B: So is that fashion something that you're into? [00:59:51] Speaker A: Yeah, for sure. Fashion is definitely like. Yeah, I want to start getting into like the fashion side of things and just the off court stuff, like working on my off court stuff. And definitely fashion's the main thing. [01:00:01] Speaker B: Yeah, that's exciting. Cheyenne, one of the greatest to come out of Canada. I'm so excited to have you. The funny thing is too, you're busy during August. We try to get you on June. I feel even like July, but you know, schedules Global jam playing there. But I'm excited just to finally have you in studio. What did you think about the spot? [01:00:20] Speaker A: It's nice. Yeah, yeah, it's nice. [01:00:22] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:00:23] Speaker B: Nice little setup, Setup. [01:00:24] Speaker A: Bright lights, right? [01:00:25] Speaker B: Like I like got the cameras come on. But can't thank you enough for coming on the podcast. Where should people find you and like, what you got going on next? [01:00:34] Speaker A: Just find me on my Instagram. Find my Instagram. Tick tock. Probably be on there. I'm not really on social media like big right now because like I told you, I'm just trying to just focus on me and stuff like that. Focused. But I'll be on social media. You guys will see me around maybe in the city. [01:00:47] Speaker B: Last question I'm gonna ask you. I seen you cooking Drake. [01:00:51] Speaker A: Oh, God. [01:00:52] Speaker B: We're gonna talk about that. Hey, yo, you can't guard. [01:00:56] Speaker A: I promise you, I get. I said every interview, yo, it was just, it was crazy. Yeah, I'm playing one on one versus Drake. Like, that's crazy. But yeah, that just. Wow. [01:01:07] Speaker B: Couldn't garden cooking about. [01:01:08] Speaker A: Yeah, that's right. [01:01:09] Speaker B: Was he good though? Was he? [01:01:10] Speaker A: No, he was though. That's what I'm saying. His jump shot got way better. Like people don't even know that. Like, but he be working and stuff like that. It's just crazy to see, like, even though he's a rapper, he tries like, you know, he wants to be a basketball player, but a lot of basketball players wants to be rap rapper want to be. But facts. Yeah, it was Just nice to just play him. [01:01:25] Speaker B: Yeah. I just have to ask you that because I know you. I've seen some clips of you. [01:01:28] Speaker A: Crib is. Crib is crazy. [01:01:30] Speaker B: Crazy. [01:01:30] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. Yellow tape. [01:01:32] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:01:32] Speaker A: It's like yo different. I don't even know like the room is on all the rooms. Everything is just on opposite side. Whatever. It's just, it's huge. And then the court, bro, you have a court in your house. [01:01:43] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:01:44] Speaker A: Like things like that are just like you have no choice but to just be hooping. [01:01:47] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:01:48] Speaker A: You built a whole big court in your house. You have no choice to be. [01:01:51] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:01:51] Speaker B: Crazy. Cheyenne, they Wilson can't thank you enough if you don't know now you know. But also like I feel like her story is kind of like one that people should look at and like the way you've paved the way for basketball I feel like should get recognized more often and. But I feel like people are gonna like the people that don't know. [01:02:10] Speaker A: People that know. Exactly. And that's a thing right? And that's just talking about just everything, support everything. Like people that know. No. So then the people that are on the outside, they don't be knowing and they just say whatever they want to say. But that just comes to like haters. Right? You're gonna have haters. If you're doing something right. You're gonna have haters. So the haters be obviously, you know, doing a chatty Patty's talking and whatever. And then you know the people that know and those are the people that are the day ones and they show support. So I'm always thankful for the ones that show support and love always. [01:02:40] Speaker B: Chande Wilson, false stats. Very own number 30. That's iconic. Number two. [01:02:45] Speaker A: 30. [01:02:46] Speaker B: 30. Can't thank you enough for coming on the show. This has been the Canadian basketball show your go to spot for the latest news stories and analysis on Canadian basketball. I'm your host Lee Ben Osman with Cheyenne and we out.