Episode Transcript
[00:00:00] Speaker A: Foreign.
[00:00:04] Speaker B: Welcome to the Canadian Basketball show, your go to spot for the latest news stories and analysis on Canadian basketball. I'm your host, Lee Band Osmond. We're in Las Vegas, Nevada, the city that never sleeps, covering the NBA Summer league. I've been here since Wednesday night. Way too many days in Vegas, but nonetheless it's been a fun time. I've been covering the Raptors following the Canadiens playing in summer league and and I'm not going to lie to you, not as many Canadians in summer league as the last few years. This is my third straight year and it's probably the least amount of Canadians. In summary, I usually have a list of guys and games I'd be checking out but not as crazy as before. But one guy that's at summer league is Montreal's own Jamil Telfer. And the guest this week on the Canadian Basketball show, he just wrapped up a stellar college basketball career at Butler and signed an Exhibit 10 deal with the Los Angeles Clippers. I got the chance to sit down with Jamil a long time coming, to be honest. An interview I'm really excited for you to hear. We were actually supposed to do a podcast back in June when he was working out for the Toronto Raptors.
It was probably like early June I believe during his pre draft process. But he got into the city late and yeah, schedule just changed so we weren't able to make it happen but determined, determined by his team to to actually make it happen in Vegas. So shout out to his people. Just excited for you guys to listen to. This is probably, I say this all the time. Like these are probably this probably my favorite interview. Like I say this every single time when I have a player like this on. But Jamil is just a fun guy to chat with, loves basketball and I really think you'll be able to hear that in this interview.
There's a few like really big Canadian basketball people that are actually right into this week a long time coach I won't name drop actually I'll give you a pretty good hint. Former head coach of the Raptors. I won't name them, but you kind of guess who it is. They held a nice little get together for a bunch of Canadian basketball people. I actually didn't hear about it until like it was ending but I got there a bit late. Shout out to my guy, new UPD man. He plugged me in so I was able to to get out there and chat with some people, chat with some potential guests, people that have been eager to get on and yeah, I really think After Vegas, like a lot of stuff is going to ramp up. I'm heading actually to Augusta, Georgia for Peach Jam, Nike, uibl, the Finals.
I went there last year, had a really good time just getting to know the top talent coming up and I think it might be a yearly trip for me. It's, it's a really good event just to get the grasp and understand like who is next start coming out of Canada. And Nike is honestly the spot where I feel like a lot of the top Canadian guys play.
But yeah, after that I'll be heading back to the city, heading back to Toronto and a bunch of guests lined up. It's crazy. Like I didn't. I kind of expect this summer to be busy especially with the, the FIBA tournaments, FIBA America cup coming up, Global Jam coming up. We have a lot of stuff, a plan. I'm excited just to like gather with my team and come up with a plan in terms of coverage for that.
And I hope like we'll be the go to spot for that kind of stuff and getting interviews, talking to players, coaches and maybe doing recaps. I don't know, we'll see.
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Yeah, like I said, summer league has been fun. I got to check in on Ryan Nemhard had a really stellar summer league debut stealing the show in a game that was supposed to be all about Bronnie Jeans versus Cooper flag. And I actually wrote a story in the Toronto Star that details how he ended up in Dallas signing a two way kind of taking the Fred Van Vliet route on betting on himself and definitely recommend checking out that story. A lot of details on his pre draft process and yeah he was at a steakhouse watching the job with family and friends and I'll probably have another story coming out Canadian type of angle Raptors related out on summer league so. So check that out. I want to give a quick shout out to the Pesh mystery he's coaching at Summer league. A Canadian guy, former Ryerson TMU grad coaching with the Sacramento Kings. I didn't get a chance to chat with him, but I think that's huge. He's doing big, big things. So shout out to the Pesh Ministry, hopefully a guest on the podcast in the future. We'll see. I got to actually catch up with our first guest on this podcast when we launched Keshan George.
Keyshawn, man, just always a pleasure chatting with him. His people, his family I think is in Montreal right now, so they weren't out here. But Keyshawn always taking the time just to chat. Really appreciate him and I expect him to play with Canada this summer. To be honest, the FIBA America. But we'll see. You don't know. Things can change, schedule can change, workout plans could change. He was just at the FIBA U19 in Switzerland watching the men's so he was doing some stuff there. So yeah, shout out to Keyshawn, man, I'm excited. Like honestly, the Wizards are going to be my second team to watch outside the Raptors with Will Riley there and Keyshawn now. And like I said, you guys know I've been covering Will Riley heavily during the pre draft process. He had a really good second game at some of these 16 points, 5, 6 shooting. And once Will adds the muscle to his body, it's going to look scary out there for people, man. The scoring, the touch is there. So yeah, excited to watch Will's development and the Wizards. The Wizards will be my, my league pass team. They will definitely be. Especially got like Trey Johnson. They got the Alex R. Bub Carrington. Man, that team is going to be a fun, fun team.
And yeah, some really as a whole, like I've just really enjoyed like I said, it's my third time. So many stories that probably can't go on the record and will stay in Vegas, but it's been amazing.
And yeah, I'm wrapping up here, but I'm excited to bring you that interview with Jam Telford. I say this all the time, but he had a lot of good stories that I'm like really excited to for you guys to listen to.
Stories about Ben Matherin, how they grew up together and how how competitive a guy he is and his journey through basketball and talk about tennis. He was a tennis guy at first, kind of shocked me and then played some volleyball and then ended up on basketball.
And yeah, eight siblings. Jamil Telfer, we have very, very fun chat with him and excited just to follow his journey. Obviously signed Exhibit 10 deal with the Clippers, but yeah, those guys. Leonard Miller, like, I don't know if I said he's out here at summer league. Emmanuel Miller, he didn't play in the first game. We got to see how he plays in summer league if he. If he's hurt or not. But Tyrese Samuel, Brooklyn Nets, didn't get to play in the first few games at summer league, but probably will get some run later down the line. Someone I'm hoping we can get on the podcast soon. I feel like he's been making a lot of noise in the Ceblad and.
Yeah, let me know also, you guys like what topics? I feel like a lot of times I get some emails about certain guests, certain topics, that kind of stuff. People will DM me all the time. But it'll be good if. If we get a bunch of emails. I feel like the emails will be great to get. And yeah, I'm gonna stop yapping and bring you that interview with Jamil Telfer. And this has been a wrap. Vegas Summer league man. Enjoy that interview with Jamil Foreign.
Welcome back to the Canadian Basketball Show. I'm joined by a special guest. Was one of the top Canadian basketball players in college this past year and is now beginning his pro career playing in summer league with the Los Angeles Clippers. Montreal Zone. Jamil Telford, my brother. How you doing?
[00:08:35] Speaker A: Appreciate you, bro. That's a great introduction right there.
I like it. Appreciate you, though. How are you?
[00:08:41] Speaker B: Appreciate it, man. I'm good. I'm good, man. Vegas is. It's a city, man. How's Vegas. Vegas treating you?
[00:08:46] Speaker A: Vegas is hot right now. It's.
I do Celsius. Like, I know Americans around here, they do Fahrenheit. Every time I talk about, like, oh, it's like 30 or 40, they're like, what does that mean? But 42, 43 Celsius is crazy.
[00:09:00] Speaker B: Like, have you been here before?
[00:09:02] Speaker A: Nah. Yeah, I've been actually to Vegas in April. Cause we had the crown tournament. Yeah, I didn't end up playing, but we had that tournament. So I was there maybe for like a week.
Not a good time. Good time. You know.
[00:09:16] Speaker B: Weather better than this, huh?
[00:09:18] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, for sure. Nah, for sure. It was like, it was probably like in the mid-20s to, like high 20s. Really? It wasn't that bad. But right now, this is crazy.
[00:09:29] Speaker B: Yeah, you're one of my favorite players to watch. I feel like this past season, college basketball, very already seasoned. I feel like at Butler, I signed with the Clippers right after the draft. What's that been like? Just Tell me about that.
[00:09:41] Speaker A: This whole journey process to me has been.
I mean, it's just like a learning curve. Like, it's been amazing. You know, just having an opportunity to work out with all these NBA teams, like learning about like the NBA and like just being a professional.
To me, I just kind of see it as an opportunity to get better. So. Yeah.
[00:10:01] Speaker B: Yeah. Going through the pre draft process second time last time you went back to college, what was that? Like, how many teams you end up.
[00:10:08] Speaker A: Working out for, like, total in two years?
[00:10:11] Speaker B: Let's do this year then. Tell me the total this year.
[00:10:13] Speaker A: How much this year?
[00:10:15] Speaker B: Oh, how many teams?
[00:10:17] Speaker A: I did. Detroit, Toronto.
[00:10:20] Speaker B: Was it up in the 20s? It was in the 20s.
[00:10:22] Speaker A: No, it wasn't in the 20s. It was like 10 and 10, maybe Detroit, Toronto, Utah, Washington.
[00:10:30] Speaker B: Ton of teams, huh?
[00:10:32] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:10:32] Speaker B: The Clippers too. Huh?
[00:10:33] Speaker A: I'm guessing I was supposed to do the Clippers.
[00:10:36] Speaker B: Okay, interesting.
[00:10:36] Speaker A: I was supposed to do the Clippers in May.
[00:10:39] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:10:41] Speaker A: I think it was actually right before the combine. But I was hurt. I went to Portsmouth and I got hurt. So I missed like those first like two weeks. So we kind of like had to like chill a little bit. So then we had rescheduled for another date and that day got like, we had to reschedule again. And then on the 21st, and then a couple guys that was supposed to be in that last workout I heard kind of had to like cancel or reschedule and they just canceled it. So I. I worked out for them last year, but this year I didn't work out for the Clippers, so I had no idea I was going to end up there.
[00:11:12] Speaker B: Yeah. How many teams you work out last last cycle?
[00:11:15] Speaker A: Last year? Four, I think.
[00:11:17] Speaker B: Nice.
[00:11:17] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:11:18] Speaker B: What was the biggest thing maybe you learned from. From last year that helped you maybe in this cycle?
[00:11:24] Speaker A: I feel like I was more comfortable this year because I just knew what we were like. What was it about? Like, I knew every workout. Like, all right. Like, I know what we're going to do. I know the hard workouts. I know the ones that like, you're like, hooping.
Like, it's just like more of like comfortable because I always feel like I knew how to hoop. So it's just like.
Like, to me, it's like, all right. Like, I know what's about to happen. I'll be fine.
[00:11:44] Speaker B: You talk about hard workouts. You mentioned Utah. I hear a lot of stuff about Utah. But what was your craziest workout?
[00:11:52] Speaker A: Craziest work? Utah is up there.
[00:11:55] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:11:55] Speaker A: It wouldn't say it's like, top three. Utah's top three. Denver, to me, was the craziest or.
[00:12:00] Speaker B: The altitude killed you, huh? Yeah, yeah.
[00:12:03] Speaker A: Because I was. I was hoping in that workout.
[00:12:05] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:12:06] Speaker A: And I got tired. And I, like, I like, pride myself of like. Like being in shape. Like, I don't get tired, but I remember getting tired in that workout. And I was like, oh, like, this is real. Like, I kept telling the assistant coaches, I'm like, yo, like, I see what y' all talking about. This is real right there.
[00:12:22] Speaker B: It's different up here.
[00:12:23] Speaker A: Yeah. But from everyone, though, Memphis is the hardest workout. And I ended up working out for Memphis.
I think it was like the day of like, game six at the NBA Finals. I was about to go to the game and my agent calls me and is like, yo, we added Memphis. You gotta lead today.
And I was working out, like, it was like 7:50 in the morning. And I was like, damn.
And I already knew about Memphis. I was just coming back from Denver.
I was working, not getting some shots up in the morning, and I was like, damn, I gotta go to Memphis. And I had heard about Memphis. I was like, kind of nervous. And then I got there and I was like, yeah, it's a lot of running and it's, you know, like, those guys, they like, you know, do a good job with their workout. But I was like, yeah, it's a. You're fine. Like, you're just competing.
[00:13:06] Speaker B: What's been, like, your favorite part about the pre jab process? Like, going through it all? Because I find it, like, fascinating. I always say this. I always just find it fascinating. You're working on a ton of teams, they're getting to know you, and it's like an interview process. And then.
[00:13:17] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:13:18] Speaker B: You're also like, trying to obviously impress them, right?
[00:13:20] Speaker A: Yeah. I mean, to me, the funnest part really is just like traveling to all these different cities and seeing all these, like, different facilities, how these, like, front offices work, and just, you know, like, seeing all the different cities. Because, like, once you get the hooping, it's. To me, it just to start hooping, you know. Like, I'm not really like, like, shook by that, I would say. But for sure, the favorite part was just like getting into a city and getting a chance to, you know, walk around. And like, I remember in Charlotte, I would like, I was like, damn, like, Charlotte is a beautiful city. Like, you know, I've never heard that. Charlotte is a. That's a pretty cool city, man. That's underrated for sure. But, like, just you know, getting a chance to like get to all those NBA cities was pretty cool.
[00:14:03] Speaker B: What was Toronto like? That workout, that Toronto workout.
[00:14:07] Speaker A: It was pretty cool.
You know, being Canada, that was my man Ryan was in there too. So that was pretty cool to have like, you know, a guy from Canada, a guy that I know in a workout. And you know, like, I know some people in the front office and on the coaching staff down there. So like, it was easy for them to make it comfortable and it was just, you know, great workout.
[00:14:28] Speaker B: Yeah. For people, like, obviously I know your game, but for people that don't. What's your scout report for Jamil Telfer?
[00:14:35] Speaker A: Versatile guy, you know, can do a lot of things.
Can rebound, dribble and push, pass it, you know, can get to the paint, you know, can make shots, defends at a high level, you know, just versatile guy that can do everything on the court. For sure.
[00:14:50] Speaker B: Yeah. I kind of describe you as like a dog, you know, mantra. I feel like Montreal breeds like these type of Lou Dort's. Ben Mathurins of the World NBA Finals. We just watched it. Two guys from Montreal doing it. What was it like watching those guys battle?
As a guy that's from there, I.
[00:15:08] Speaker A: Mean, it was amazing actually. I was like shout out to those guys. Like I remember like, just like I played with like, obviously I played with those guys. Like growing up we was like park X mostly with Ben.
But like just like seeing them like now like on a like highest like stage in like basketball world, like the media, that was just like amazing and just like shout out to like, damn, like their families. Like, you know, it's just.
It was amazing. Yeah, for sure.
[00:15:39] Speaker B: I was gonna ask how well did you know them and you know them and you said you played with Ben.
[00:15:44] Speaker A: Ben.
I played with Ben since I was like, I think like 14 every year since I was like 14.
And Louis Lou, I never actually. I played I think like a couple games in a summer, like a summer league with Lou. But I was like, I was like 14 actually. But other than that, like, Lou would just come back and like work out and you know, and. And he would work out with us a little bit. And then I went to Northeastern and like, I would come back and that's when he was like in his like first few years with the Thunder and we would work out because I know like his trainers. Trainer used to be my coach, like Fez from Toronto actually.
So like, yeah, like even this past summer we worked out a little bit. You know, I still want my get back from that.
[00:16:23] Speaker B: But so he won.
[00:16:24] Speaker A: He actually. He got me that time. He got me that time.
[00:16:27] Speaker B: We gotta set up. Yes.
I hear a lot of Ben Matheren stories. I like this guy. Ultimate competitor.
[00:16:34] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:16:35] Speaker B: What's your favorite? Like, maybe Ben Matheran story of him. Maybe I seen a video of him going crazy. Elijah Reedus's son.
[00:16:43] Speaker A: Oh, yeah.
[00:16:44] Speaker B: Elijah, man.
[00:16:46] Speaker A: I've known Ben. Ben has some stories for you. For sure. Like, one is Ben used to when we played at Parquettes, Ben will come to me every day, would be like, jamil, I will dunk on you, and I will windmill in between the legs. By the end of the summer, and he's, like, a year younger than me. So, like, at the time, I was maybe like, 15, and he was like, 14, right?
And I kept telling him, like, yo, I don't. Like, like, stop it, bro. Like, I want to hear that. Like, and you'll see it if you like. I mean, he might have. He must have it on his Instagram. But, like, the end of that summer, he posted a video. I wasn't there that day. He posted a video where he took off and went between the legs. And I was like, wow. Dude couldn't even dunk, like, a couple months ago.
How can he go from, like, not dunking to straight between? I was like, yeah, this guy, anything that he puts his mind to, like, he could definitely do it. That's when I knew he was different.
[00:17:45] Speaker B: I'm guessing you saw it early, huh?
[00:17:46] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. Really competitive.
Every practice was really competitive. I mean, Nelson also made sure that it was. Nelson was our coach back at Park Hikes, and he also made sure that everything was, like, mentally challenging, mostly, and it was really competitive. Thus the kind of stuff he was, like, trying to get out of us.
[00:18:05] Speaker B: So, yeah, play with Brookwood Elite. What was that like? Who's. Who's the guys you play with? Let me hear some names. And what was that experience? Like, aau, I feel like they're. Brooklyn is one of the top programs there. There is.
[00:18:16] Speaker A: I played 17s the first year. I wasn't really playing that much. On that team was Quincy Gary, Kareem Main, Keyshawn Martellamy.
Actually, what's. His. McCorm maker was on that team. He was. He was hoping him and Quincy and Korean Blue kind of had a really good summer. Like, blew off like that next summer with Canada Elite, but it was a pretty good team, I would say. But the next year, it was like, me, Keyshawn again, O. Max Prosper and Ben Matheran.
And that's like, we had a pretty good summer.
He beat some pretty good teams. I remember, like, we. Ben had a game winner, actually.
[00:18:58] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:18:59] Speaker A: Against Compton Magic and Evan Mobley, Jen Clark. All those guys done Terry. It was pretty cool game, for sure.
[00:19:05] Speaker B: You got to answer this question for me. Who's better in basketball, Ontario or Montreal?
Well, explain it, man.
[00:19:13] Speaker A: I don't know, man. Montreal.
[00:19:15] Speaker B: I'll say this. You guys are. You guys are. You guys are. The gap is closing.
[00:19:18] Speaker A: I got. I'm biased, though. I'm definitely biased. But to me, Montreal just.
There's just some dogs. Like, we just breed them dogs for sure. Like, back against the wall.
That's what we do, you know? But shout out to Ontario, too, though. They got some guys, like, obviously, like the Nembars, Shay, rj, like, Dylan Brooks, all those guys, like, you know.
[00:19:42] Speaker B: Yeah. I was gonna ask, what's boutique spot? Montreal, man. We talked about it a bit. You told me you didn't have some spots for me. I go to Lebanon Keys all the time, but I feel like that's very generic. Any spots? Maybe not even poutine. What's your favorite? Like, go to spot or like, in Montreal? That's maybe Montreal. Yeah.
[00:20:04] Speaker A: Actually, lately it's been duo de chef.
[00:20:07] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:20:07] Speaker A: Yeah. Back in Riviera de Paris.
[00:20:10] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:20:10] Speaker A: It's like a little, like, Haitian kind of spot. Like, kind of.
I mess with that. That's. That's pretty cool.
[00:20:16] Speaker B: Are you Haitian?
[00:20:17] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:20:18] Speaker B: It's crazy because you, Ludor, Omax, Ben Matheran all have the Haitian backstory. Is it crazy just to see, like, the impact? I feel like you guys are like, it's the next wave of talent, but also just, like, the Haitian wave in Canada. What's it been like seeing that?
[00:20:34] Speaker A: I mean, it's definitely. It's definitely a good thing, in my opinion. You know, like, there's obviously a big Haitian, like, culture, like Pete and a lot of Haitian people back in Montreal because of, like, you know, like, the French language and just like, that kind of, like, translation into, like, the Creole and all of it. But, you know, to me, just seeing all those guys, like, obviously succeeding, like, it's just amazing for, like, Haiti and just, like, the Haitian culture and just, you know, we're just trying to make it proud. For sure.
[00:21:02] Speaker B: Yeah. I want to go through your whole journey just in basketball. Tell me how you got. How did you get into the game? What was the first love?
[00:21:09] Speaker A: My brothers. Yeah, my brothers.
[00:21:12] Speaker B: I read you had, like, how many siblings?
[00:21:14] Speaker A: Eight.
[00:21:15] Speaker B: Eight. What was that household like, Man?
[00:21:18] Speaker A: Man, it was Not a lot of food because everyone would just eat it.
[00:21:26] Speaker B: And y' all had to fight for.
[00:21:27] Speaker A: That for the first. But, yeah, nah, we definitely had to.
It was definitely even, like, on the court. Like, I really started to play because, like, my brothers was playing, right? My older brothers all were in track at first, and then we moved out and they started hooping.
And, yeah, my brothers would have me and my brother Jacob, who's like a year older than me, he would have us, like, outside and, like, practice that Darren Williams kind of cross, say, yo, y' all gotta, like, do it like Darren Williams. And, you know, I would just keep on going outside, and he'll have us play ones. And my brother Jacob would beat me every time.
[00:22:03] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah.
[00:22:04] Speaker A: Never beat him till I actually got taller than him. And then I was just like, all right, like, you can't mess with me now. But I couldn't. Like, when I was a kid, I couldn't beat him.
[00:22:13] Speaker B: What's the rankings? I want to hear it. If they're listening to this podcast right now, what's the ranking? Siblings?
[00:22:19] Speaker A: It doesn't matter. I'm first.
[00:22:21] Speaker B: Is Jacob second?
[00:22:22] Speaker A: Nah, my younger brother Josh might be second.
He was at juker last this past year.
And my brother Jordison also played juco.
[00:22:33] Speaker B: You know, but say it's tough for Jacob.
[00:22:36] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's tough for Jacob. I got another brother, Jordan, that plays at Airhead Circuit in, like, in Montreal Concordia, so he plays over there. And then my oldest brothers, Jonathan and Josh and Jose, they don't hoop no more, but all that matters is that I'm first. That's all they need to know.
[00:22:53] Speaker B: Damn, you guys have, like, a whole run, man. You guys, when was the last time y' all played?
[00:22:57] Speaker A: Oh, my. My two older brothers, actually, Jonathan doesn't hoop no more, but damn, that's a good question. I don't even know.
Maybe this past summer.
[00:23:07] Speaker B: Yeah, probably not serious, or you hitting every shot, huh?
[00:23:14] Speaker A: No, it wasn't this. Yeah. Nah, I can't remember. I was supposed to hoop actually, like, just like this a couple weeks ago with them, but I was, like, working out for pre draft, and that was actually the day of the draft. I was, like, working out, like, the second day of the drive, I was working out, and they all, like, went out to hoop, and I was just like, nah, like, I gotta, like, you know, take these calls, like, agent, like, I gotta make sure, like, what's. I know what's going on, like, where I'm going, you know, if I get dropped or not. Like, all that kind of stuff. But we'll get to it. We'll get to it.
[00:23:43] Speaker B: Where were you on draft night? In Montreal.
[00:23:45] Speaker A: In Montreal, yeah.
[00:23:46] Speaker B: What was that like?
[00:23:48] Speaker A: I was actually in a gym, so I didn't even watch it. Yeah, I didn't even watch the second round. I told my agent. I'm like, yo, I'm gonna have my phone on. Call me if anything.
But, like, I'm not. I'm probably not gonna watch it.
[00:24:01] Speaker B: Yeah, right.
[00:24:02] Speaker A: Like, I don't. Like, I kind of want that surprise in terms of, like. But my parents was all at home watching it, and we kind of, like, knew, like, what we wanted in terms of, like, okay, like, the teams. That was, like, really looking at me and just where I wanted to end up. And it was just like, okay, like, those are going to be your options. Like, we're going to see what happens in the second round and just, you know, like, put you in the best situation possible.
[00:24:24] Speaker B: Tell me about that. What were you looking for in terms of a fit for a team? Why did the Clippers meet those.
[00:24:30] Speaker A: I think that the Clippers play a type of basketball where it's just, like, a lot of versatility, you know? And I feel like I fit in that way because that's who I am as a player. Right. Like, I can do a lot of different things, you know? Like, I can, like, compliment, like, a lot of, like, star players, a lot of scorers. You know, I can score, too, but I can defend. I can dribble, I can pass, you know, and rebound. So it's just the Clippers kind of fit that mold of basketball.
[00:24:57] Speaker B: Was there a moment where you're like, yeah, I'm gonna pursue basketball as a career?
[00:25:02] Speaker A: Yeah. I would say around, like, eighth grade, I kind of made that decision. Cause I used to. I played tennis for a little bit. Oh, yeah. I played tennis for a little bit.
[00:25:13] Speaker B: What's that guy's name? Are you.
[00:25:15] Speaker A: I'm a Roger Federer fan. Okay. Yeah. Go, go.
[00:25:18] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:25:18] Speaker A: I don't want to hear about Nadal Djokovic. I'm a Roger Federer guy.
[00:25:22] Speaker B: Okay. Okay. So what happened with tennis, man?
[00:25:26] Speaker A: To be honest, like, my mom put me and my sister, like, through camp. And, like, I used to watch tennis. Like, I've always watched tennis when I was, like. When we was kids, like, always watch. And then our church actually, like, got us, like, like, a way into, like, that camp. So, like, I would go and stuff. But, like, I remember, actually, they. They had me played up. Like, I would play up.
[00:25:45] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:25:46] Speaker A: And, like, I Was, like, beating everyone. And then we did, like, a tournament, like a playoffs tournament, and I lost, and I was sick. And then after that, it was just like, you know what? Like, let's do something else.
[00:25:58] Speaker B: Damn. We could have seen you at the Canadian Open, man.
[00:26:00] Speaker A: Yeah, we could have. But, you know, maybe you still can. I could still get, you know, do a little something out there. But, yeah, after that, I played a little bit of volleyball, and, yeah, I really started to lock in around, like, eighth grade. I was like, I'm trying to hoop for real. That's when I went to. Actually, like, the next year, I went to Park X. So.
[00:26:17] Speaker B: Yeah, tell me about Park X.
[00:26:20] Speaker A: That was definitely, to me, like, the biggest, like, one of the most, like, challenging, I guess, like, moments in my life. But, like, they made, like, the biggest impact for me as a player because they really challenge you mentally.
It's not really about, like, basketball and, like, you know, like, all right, we're gonna work you out. Like, obviously, you work out every day over there, but, like, and. But it's not about, like, oh, we're gonna work you out. You're gonna be a better shooter. It's all about, like, mentally.
We want to put you on an advantage, basically. So I think that over there, they do a really, really good job at that, for sure.
[00:26:53] Speaker B: Who else went there?
[00:26:55] Speaker A: I went there. Benedict Matheran went there. Luguin Stewart went there.
And then, like, all the guys, like Camille, say, Kenny Sherry, Fred Zuri.
My bad for all the guys. I'm, like, forgetting. But, yeah, like, those are guys.
[00:27:09] Speaker B: Good list. Good list.
[00:27:10] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:27:11] Speaker B: Tell me about after high school.
What was your recruitment like?
[00:27:16] Speaker A: Like, after high school. Yeah, because I went college schools.
[00:27:19] Speaker B: Like, what was that? Once you're about to enter college.
[00:27:21] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:27:22] Speaker B: Basketball was your recruitment. Like, was there something I'm missing in between?
[00:27:26] Speaker A: Like, I went to Thorn Lee Prep in between.
And then from Thorn Lee, I ended up Tony and Toronto. I ended up playing in New Hampton. New Hampton School in New Hampshire in the Knapsack League. And then really Covid and, like, at the end of the season, we ended up winning the championship. And at the end of the season, Covid happened. And I was waiting to do all my visits after the season.
And right when, like, Covid happened, to be honest, I, like, really. I try to commit to Bradley.
[00:27:56] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:27:56] Speaker A: And they called me, and it was like, yo, like, we just gave our last scholarship, like, two days ago.
[00:28:02] Speaker B: Damn.
[00:28:02] Speaker A: Yeah. And they was waiting me. Waiting for me the whole year. Like, I had told them in November that I'm gonna Just weigh it out. And there was gonna be. They was like, all right, we're gonna wait for you.
And then when I tried to, like, be like, all right, I want to go there. And it was like, let's see if we can find a way to get you there, because we don't have any scholarship anymore. And then I kind of also connected with the Northeastern staff.
[00:28:26] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:28:27] Speaker A: So I was like, you know what? That's kind of like a staff that, like, I really, like, trust. And I knew some of the players. They had Canadian players like Coleman, Stuka, Kachinwanga, and I knew Tyson Walker, too, already from New Hampton, because he used to go there. So I was like, you know, to me, that's the best decision for sure.
[00:28:44] Speaker B: What was Northeastern like and what was them like in terms of, like, scouting you and, like, wanting you?
[00:28:50] Speaker A: To them, it was all about, like, me, again, a versatile player that can do a lot of things. You know, they was like, we want to put you on the ball, off the ball. We want you to, like, rebound, defend. Like, you could do everything, so we want you to do all that. So to them, it was all about development, and I feel like I had the chance to do that with them.
[00:29:09] Speaker B: Well, how would you describe your. Your three years? Right.
[00:29:11] Speaker A: Yeah, the three years. Yeah.
[00:29:13] Speaker B: How would you describe it there?
[00:29:15] Speaker A: A lot of growth, I would say. A lot of growth.
I would say I had a pretty good. I had a good freshman year. I wasn't as good my sophomore year. So I really went into that summer, like, from my sophomore year to my junior year, like, really, like, working in terms of, like, having a better year my junior year. And then I had a pretty good year my junior year, and it was like, you know, like, I want to do that against the High Ranger competition. So it kind of led me into Butler.
[00:29:42] Speaker B: What's that work look like? Especially talking about first year, not doing much, but then, well, like, what's the work look like in the summer for you to get to that level where now you're going to Butler?
[00:29:52] Speaker A: Yeah, it's a. It's all about consistency, really. Like, every day, like, get it in. Like, get your work in, you know, like, make sure you work on, like, stuff that. Yes, you do in games.
Work on a couple weaknesses and, you know, just keep honing your skills, you know, honing your craft and keep getting better. So that's what I try to do every summer.
[00:30:13] Speaker B: Yeah. The first time I watched you play was Global Jam, and I was like, I need to put this guy on my radar. I need to start watching more of this game, especially going to Butler. What was Global Jam like for you? What do you remember about that? That summer?
[00:30:23] Speaker A: Damn. Global Jam. That was a great experience, too, actually.
It was interesting because, like, you know, you get, like, such, like, a short amount of time with, like, the guys that you're with, so it's, like, not a lot of chemistry. But I feel like as a team, like, we really bonded and we had a great coaching staff. Like, shout out to, like, Nate Mitchell. Like, that's my guy.
[00:30:44] Speaker B: I saw him out here in Vegas.
[00:30:45] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. Got a lot of love for Nate, man. He really cares about, like, like, his players. So we had a great coaching staff, and it was also, like, all about us, like, getting better. Like, they made sure, like, hey, like, we want to also, like, for you to, like, keep developing. And it was pretty good about that, too.
[00:31:01] Speaker B: Yeah, it's cool to see a lot of those guys from that team here. Tell me about the. So once you get to Butler, what's that like?
I seen Greg Odin was on staff with that team, too.
[00:31:10] Speaker A: Yeah, shout out to yo. Yeah, I mean, Butler was more like.
I had to, like, really feel an adjustment, like, throughout, like, Big east play right at first. To me, like, my game, like, I'm, like, more like, I'm, like, a really physical player, I would say. And, like, you know, like, I kind of do a lot of things. So it wasn't that big of an adjustment to.
We got to, like, early Big east play. And then I can, like, see, like, teams would, like, kind of, like, scout you a little, like, a little bit, and then just, like, play you a little bit more to your weaknesses. And that's when I really, like, felt like, okay, like, this is a little bit different. Like, this is the Big east, so you kind of have to, like, adjust to that, you know, and. But, like, shout out to, like, our coaching staff, like, you know, Greg Odin, like, John Deibler, coach Biggie, Alex Aparlo, coach Mojo, actually was actually from Montreal. Like, those guys made.
Did a pretty good job to, like, you know, like, help me or navigate through that.
[00:32:05] Speaker B: How would you describe the Big East Conference? I feel like it's underrated.
[00:32:09] Speaker A: Tough.
Tough. I mean, that first year, I remember we had a stretch where we was actually, like, hooping. We had B. Creighton. At Creighton, and I had a pretty good game over there. It was a crazy game. Like, ended up, like, 99 to, like, 98.
I had a really good game. And then the next game, we was at UConn and Creighton at the time was like, I think top. Like, maybe 15. Really top 10 or 15. And then the next game we was at UConn, who was number one in the country, ended up losing, you know, a close one. And then the next time we had Marquette, who was a top five team in the country. You know, it's just the Big East. It just keeps coming, like top teams after top team. So it's just like. It's a grind, for sure. But, you know, you got to love it. And this is what you want as a player. You want the competition. You want to go at these guys, and.
For sure, yeah, I feel like that's what we did.
[00:33:03] Speaker B: Yeah. What did you learn about yourself during your time at Butler? What was that whole experience like?
[00:33:09] Speaker A: I think it was more so about me being more vocal and being more of a leader. Really? Yeah, because that's. Coach Mata kind of like, recruited me to be in that mode. So to me, I feel like that's kind of like what I came out of Butler, like, with, like, the most, like, in terms of, like, all right, you need to, like, talk more, like, lead more and just be yourself.
[00:33:30] Speaker B: Are you a quiet guy? Because I feel like this interview, I'm like, you're not quiet.
[00:33:34] Speaker A: I could be quiet.
[00:33:35] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:33:35] Speaker A: Yeah, that could be quiet. It's, you know, if I mess with you. That's what I was telling you. If I mess with you, I rap with you, but.
[00:33:41] Speaker B: Okay.
Come on.
[00:33:44] Speaker A: Yeah. I usually be. I'm not. Not, like, trying to, like, go out of my way to, you know, like, talk to people.
[00:33:48] Speaker B: Yeah.
Toughest player you had to guard in college. Is there anybody that you think of? Like, yo, we were battling, like, me and him were. We were going at it.
[00:33:57] Speaker A: Toughest player.
[00:33:58] Speaker B: And I'm like, I don't know if you want to give your flowers today.
[00:34:01] Speaker A: You know, Like, I really don't.
I really don't.
You know, there's some pretty good. There was some pretty good players. I mean, Evan Carter was pretty. He was good. Yeah, he was good.
Alex Caribbean was good, too.
[00:34:18] Speaker B: Yeah. Long. He had a long career, man.
[00:34:20] Speaker A: Yeah.
You know, a sneaky one, and I hate to do this, too, a sneaky one was Desmond Claude.
[00:34:25] Speaker B: Okay. Where's he playing?
[00:34:26] Speaker A: And Michael Peavey, actually.
[00:34:28] Speaker B: Michael Peavey. Where's Desmond? For people that don't know, he played.
[00:34:31] Speaker A: Xavier this a lot. The year that, like, he was in the Big east, and this past year, he was at usc, and I think he's in Washington.
You know, like, we actually ended up being cool, but yeah, he always like, he always gave me like some, some good buckets. I give it to him.
[00:34:45] Speaker B: Are you like a trash talk or are you like if someone starts yapping or. You started first?
[00:34:50] Speaker A: Nah, I don't really start. I mean it depends like, you know how this game goes. But like, I don't really start at first though. Like, if I see you on that type of time, like, I'm going to show you like, yo, like, I could do this too now. Like, you know, I'll talk back to you. Like, but I know, you know, usually I just hoop too.
[00:35:07] Speaker B: Like, yeah, Nil, I want to talk about this.
I feel like it's just starting to get big. I mean, maybe it's just starting to get big when you're in college. Now it's gotten crazier. What are your thoughts? And I just see like a thousand players just entered the portal. Yeah, like, that's insane to me.
What was that like for you and what was it like seeing just like Nil and the way people are entering portal?
[00:35:31] Speaker A: I didn't have like, we didn't have an IL at Northeastern.
[00:35:35] Speaker B: Yeah, right.
[00:35:36] Speaker A: Once I got to Butler like that first year, like, you know, like that's when we started, like, do a little bit.
[00:35:41] Speaker B: Yeah, you don't have to get into.
[00:35:42] Speaker A: It the next year. Like the next year like me going into the pre draft, like all that stuff like, and just me staying at Butler also like played a part in that. But like I never really had to like deal with Nil like that. It was more so like are like who's coming in and then people want to come in for a certain amount of money and it's just like, ah, like, okay. So to be honest, I'm glad I don't have to deal with that like, because like it's getting really crazy. But at the same time I feel like as players like they deserve it for sure. Like, go get your paper.
[00:36:12] Speaker B: Yeah. You think it's like there should be. There's been a lot of conversations about like contracts to be implemented. What are your thoughts on that? And like, do you feel like.
Because, I don't know, some players I feel like will enter it just to enter. You know what I'm saying? Like a thousand is insane. I feel like. But what are your thoughts on just like how to like maybe fix it or just like, because, hey, I heard like bench players now getting paid 500k plus.
[00:36:39] Speaker A: Yeah, it's. I mean, I don't like as I could see both sides of it. Right. Like, I kind of see like, to me, as a player, like, if I don't play and I demand a lot of money, like. Like, to me, it's kind of like, not like I need to put that work in first, you know, but at the same time, some players, like, they didn't get a chance to play, you know, because they had guys in front of them, and they're pretty good, and it's like, they got to take care of their families.
So I kind of, like, see both sides in terms of, like, you know, like, I don't know if, like, you should treat it like a professional league only because, like, you still gotta, like, go to, like, the school and stuff. Like, you still gotta, like, do school, so it's not like you're really a pro, so. Yeah, and that question beats me. Like, I. Can. I see both sides, for sure.
[00:37:25] Speaker B: Were schools trying to, like, call you, poach you? Was. What was that like for you? You don't have to get into it.
[00:37:29] Speaker A: Yeah, a little bit. A little bit.
[00:37:31] Speaker B: There you go for the politics.
[00:37:33] Speaker A: They'll do a little something, you know, Then they're not gonna go directly to, like, through you, though. They'll, like.
[00:37:39] Speaker B: There's always people.
[00:37:40] Speaker A: Yeah, they'll talk to you.
[00:37:41] Speaker B: How would you sum up your. Your college career? Just looking at it now, just, I feel like it maybe had some times in the last few months just to look at it and how it all ended. How would you sum up your college?
[00:37:51] Speaker A: That's a good question.
I don't know, really. I haven't actually had a chance because, like, you know, like, you also, like, focus on the next thing. Like, you know, you do, like, all right, like, Portsmouth and pre draft and, you know, then summer league.
That's a good question. I don't know.
It might take a few weeks and just reflect on that for sure.
[00:38:09] Speaker B: After.
[00:38:09] Speaker A: After summer league.
[00:38:10] Speaker B: Yeah, I'm just looking at the. Your stats. Like, 16 points a game, 4.7 rebounds, 3.4 assists.
Man, I feel like it's. It's not talked about. I feel like you should get your flowers just in terms of the run that you had, especially at Butler, too.
I'll be honest. Some games are hard to watch, and I only watched for you.
[00:38:28] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:38:29] Speaker B: Yeah, but it was. It was. Hey, you did your thing.
[00:38:31] Speaker A: It's tough, man. Like, I feel like winning is such.
[00:38:34] Speaker B: It's so hard in this college.
[00:38:35] Speaker A: It's. It's hard.
It's. It's a big. Obviously a big. To me, it's everything. Like, it's a big component, but to me, like, Winning is everything. And like, losing games, like, was like, really bothersome for me. Like, it was like it was itching for sure. Like, I was like, damn. Like, like, what else can I do? And like.
[00:38:55] Speaker B: And you did your thing, though. I feel like if anybody watched you this past season, saw, like, you're a bright spot with that Butler team.
But going back to the preja process, talk me through it. When did it all start?
For people that don't know, and what's the last, like, few months been, like.
[00:39:12] Speaker A: Like, when it all start this year or did it pass this year? This year?
Like, this year started for me after Portsmouth, like, a little different. Like last year I started as soon as, like, the season was over. Like, I did like the whole month of April, like the whole month of May, basically, and then went back to school.
This year I had to, like, we had like, the crown tournament in Vegas actually here in Vegas around, like, I think like we left maybe April 6th. I can't remember really, but like, after that, like, went straight to Portsmouth, Virginia, and then really that was like, maybe like April again around April 20th.
And then really after that straight to LA. It know, but it was a little different this year because, like I said, like, I got hurt, so I couldn't really do much those first, like, few weeks in la.
So like, I really, like, started to get going in May, you know, and then, you know, you put. Get your work in, like, make sure you're ready for these draft workouts. And after that it's. It's all go. You travel to all these cities for all these workouts?
[00:40:15] Speaker B: Yeah. What was Portsmouth like? I know it's like in mid April, you mentioned Virginia. I watched a few of those games and I seen some of the stats. You did your thing. What's it like showing NBA teams? Obviously you said you end up getting hurt, but a lot of NBA teams, I feel like it's kind of a weird. And the team names are weird as hell. Like, it's like some car insurance name.
[00:40:33] Speaker A: I'm like, I still don't, like, know. I think they're trying to, like, promote like, different, like, like companies like in this. In their city, basically. But yeah, I'm not like, too sure about that, but I mean, it was cool, you know, it's great experience in terms of like, showcasing like, your game for, like, college seniors. And that's stuff that you obviously can't take for granted. And I was just blessed to have that opportunity, really.
[00:40:59] Speaker B: What was the feedback maybe you received from NBA teams just throughout this, throughout the Re drive.
[00:41:05] Speaker A: I think that they really want to see if I could, like, shoot it. And then, like, they want to see me, like, handle it more, you know, like, see me, like, more, like, make more decision, you know, like. Like. And then athletically, just, like, you know, be quicker on your feet, like, be more of an athlete, all that kind of, you know, the NBA game, like, kind of fit more into that mode.
[00:41:23] Speaker B: Yeah. Any specific NBA guys? Like, you kind of model your game after. You're like, I kind of see myself at this archetype or like that.
[00:41:32] Speaker A: I mean, I wouldn't say I, like, kind of model my game after really, like any NBA guys. I kind of, like, trying to, like, watch a little bit of everyone.
[00:41:42] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:41:42] Speaker A: And I kind of, like, create like, my own, you know. Like, I watch like. Like, how aggressive, like, someone like Ben is, like, right. Ben Mather. And like, how, like, he's able to come off the bench, you know, like, mentally. Sometimes it's tough. Like, he might not play the four square. You know, he might not get a lot of minutes, and all of a sudden he gets in and, you know, like straight buckets, you know, like, we know how Ben is. Like, I like, watch how Lou plays defense. Andrew Nembard, like, plays defense and, like, playmakes and, you know, is able to make decision off the catch and with the ball in his hands, you know, I watch guys like Najee Marshall, who's able to get in there and shoot those little floaters. Cause that's kind of what I do too.
I watch how Dillon Brooks, someone like Dylan Brooks, is able to get in the paint and be more physical and be more of the toughness guy defensively.
Watch a lot of basketball. I watch everyone, star players, role players.
I try to take a little bit of everything out of everyone and just put into my games.
[00:42:43] Speaker B: Yeah. What are your thoughts on just the NBA season, like, the.
The two teams. I feel like Indiana kind of wasn't like, a team that everyone expected, but their style of play, moving the ball, running the floor. Like, what are your thoughts on it? And, yeah, just thoughts on the finals match. I feel like we got a good one.
[00:43:01] Speaker A: Yeah. I mean, I was actually obviously blessed to like, go to Butler, and Butler is like, maybe like 10 to 15 minutes from downtown.
So I've been to a couple games, like Pacers game. Like, you know, like, Ben would give me tickets or a couple people on our staff would get us tickets. I've been able to get a chance to be in a couple games, and it's really like, popping. How they play a lot of people, like, a lot of people that could come in and defend, dribble, pass and shoot, and they want to play fast. So that's kind of how I see the league trending. We can see how deep OKC is. You have to have a lot of guys that can.
That could just hope, really, like, that's how I see it. And to me, that's how I feel. I fit in that mode.
[00:43:47] Speaker B: Yeah. You mentioned bank getting your tickets. You guys really tapped in like that, huh?
[00:43:50] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah.
[00:43:51] Speaker B: What advice did they get? Did those guys give you any advice? Lou Dort, Ben Mather, like, throughout the whole cycle or anything like that?
[00:43:56] Speaker A: No. Yeah, they actually did. You know, just.
It's really about, like, being. Being confident in who you are as a player and being able to defend at a high level and just be yourself. Really, like, be aggressive and be yourself.
That was kind of, like. That was kind of the main message for both.
[00:44:13] Speaker B: Yeah. Saludo went undrafted, went to G League route and earned his win. I look at him, man. He's.
[00:44:19] Speaker A: Yeah, for sure. Yeah.
[00:44:20] Speaker B: Tough, man. What was it like seeing Shay win mvp?
Canadian guy?
[00:44:24] Speaker A: Yeah, that was pretty cool, you know, and pretty cool for Canada.
Pretty cool for Shay, obviously, and his family. And shout out to him, you know, he's. He can say right now that he's the best player in the world.
Oh, yeah.
[00:44:36] Speaker B: Yeah. Any interest for you playing for. For Canada? I know you obviously play gold with Jam, but in the future, any interest in.
[00:44:42] Speaker A: Sure, for sure. I still see. I still feel like I got a lot of work to do. Yeah, but for sure. You know, I've always.
I've loved, like, representing, like, Canada, like, on a basketball court.
Like, I take pride in that. And then, you know, if in the future there's a possibility to do it, let's do it.
[00:45:02] Speaker B: Yeah. Last few questions before I let you go. I know you're busy, man. We not gonna give up the location that we have, but we had an undisclosed hotel in Vegas studded here. This hotel, man, not my hotel.
[00:45:14] Speaker A: I don't know.
[00:45:14] Speaker B: They got y' all living on a different budget, man.
I'm trying to get, like, this eventually cool vibe.
[00:45:19] Speaker A: For sure.
[00:45:19] Speaker B: Yeah. How do you see your game just translating to the NBA level?
[00:45:24] Speaker A: I think my game is kind of what the NBA is about right now. You know, come in, defend at a high level and being able to, like, catch shoe drive and make a decision and, you know, just play off of, like, other people having, like, being able to compliment, like, other people and just, you know, Just really just be a Hooper. Like, that's kind of how I see it. Like, you know, like, that's what the NBA is like. I feel like it's going towards too, like, playing a lot of guys, you know, like, and just having Hoopers and that's kind of how I see my game translate, for sure. Yeah.
[00:46:00] Speaker B: Summer league, obviously. What are you looking to show teams now? Just in. In this week, week and a half, long process.
[00:46:06] Speaker A: Just who I am for sure. Like, who I am as a player.
[00:46:10] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:46:10] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:46:11] Speaker B: It's gonna be exciting just to watch it. Let me.
Your journey, obviously, we talk about Northwestern to Butler, Montreal.
How would you just sum up your whole basketball journey?
Probably a tough one, huh?
[00:46:27] Speaker A: Yeah, that's a good question.
I would say a lot of growth, development and mental toughness, for sure.
[00:46:38] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:46:38] Speaker A: That's how I would describe it.
[00:46:39] Speaker B: Yeah.
My guy can't thank you enough, Jamil.
[00:46:43] Speaker A: Appreciate you.
[00:46:44] Speaker B: What's one thing maybe people that don't know about you that you're like, y' all should know about any music you listen to? Tapped in that I should.
[00:46:51] Speaker A: I listen to everything. Yeah, I listen to everything.
[00:46:54] Speaker B: I have been asking people this. Roddy Ricch, what are your thoughts on Roddy Ric?
[00:46:57] Speaker A: Roddy Ricch. I mess with Roddy Rich. I mean, don't do that. That album, that first album that, like, that was legendary. That was.
[00:47:05] Speaker B: He'll make.
[00:47:06] Speaker A: I still listen to it.
[00:47:07] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:47:07] Speaker A: I still listen to it to this day. Like, I love that song with Dirk.
I love. I love a couple of songs of the. After that album. And he. He has one coming out a little bit. Right.
I'm waiting to see what he got it. I'm really tapped in on music now.
[00:47:22] Speaker B: Yeah. Anybody else? You. You listen to. You listen to Drake Pregame.
[00:47:28] Speaker A: Drake. Doug.
[00:47:29] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:47:30] Speaker A: Doug Gunna.
[00:47:31] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:47:32] Speaker A: Future.
You know, all those, like, rappers I listen to. But I also, like. I tap in a little bit on that. On that Afrobeat side, like the Burno Boys and all the Whiskey. All those guys, too.
[00:47:43] Speaker B: Like, you gonna be outside for Carabana?
[00:47:46] Speaker A: Oh, that's a good question. I don't know.
We'll see. We'll see about that.
[00:47:50] Speaker B: Well, what's the next few. Few weeks or, like, months look like for you? Obviously preparing for the next stage.
[00:47:55] Speaker A: Really? After summer league, Like, a little bit of rest.
[00:47:57] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:47:58] Speaker A: Like, I gotta go back to Indy, but a little bit of rest. And then after that, just getting back in the gym.
[00:48:05] Speaker B: Yeah. Last question for you. Biggest advice. I know there's some players that might be listening to this and seeing your journey be like, I want to be the next Jimmy Will Telfer. What's your biggest advice for them?
[00:48:16] Speaker A: You gotta be your biggest believer, you know, if you don't believe, you'll never achieve it.
Always gotta believe. If you believe it, you can do.
[00:48:24] Speaker B: It perfectly, said Jamil Telfer. I can't thank you, my brother enough for for joining this podcast and chatting with me, man. If you guys don't know, you guys gotta tap into him. I feel like we're gonna be seeing a lot of DeMille in the future, so. Especially with the Canadian national team. I'll hold you to that, man. In the future, man, I'm gonna need you to suit up.
Okay.
[00:48:44] Speaker A: For sure.
[00:48:44] Speaker B: My guy Jamil, can't thank you enough. You've been listening to the Canadian basketball show, the go to spot for the latest news stories and analysis on Canadian basketball with my guy, Jamil Lee. Man, we out.
