What should the Raptors do in the 2025 NBA Draft?

[00:00:00] Speaker A: Foreign. [00:00:04] Speaker B: Welcome to the Canadian Basketball show, your go to spot for the latest news stories and analysis on Canadian basketball. I'm your host, Lee Ban Osmond. By the time you're hearing this podcast, I'll be in New York for the NBA draft covering top Canadian prospect Will Riley, where the Raptors might pick in this draft if they still keep their pick. By the time you're hearing this, who knows? We'll find out. I wanted to go through the Raptors options at number nine and give you insight on the Canadiens in the draft. Not only Will Riley, but Ryan Nemhard, maybe Montreal's own Jamil Telfer, another fringe NBA guy. Three Canadiens all in the mix. And joining me to do so is someone I really respect in the draft space. I listen to his podcast religiously. I go to sleep to it, to be honest with you. I won't lie. I draft consultant and a member of the Locked on NBA big board podcast, my brother, James Barlow. How you doing? [00:00:59] Speaker A: I'm good, man. Hopefully you're not sleeping on this because we boring. [00:01:03] Speaker B: No, no, no, it's a good listen, man. Right before I go to sleep. Like I'd be a blitz though. So I'd be listening like around like 1 2am Sometimes, you know. But I really enjoy it though, man, like all year long listening to the. Just everything draft related. I feel like you guys do a really good job. I know you were just like you've been added to the mix in the last year. I'm like you and your brother when you back and forth. I really enjoy it. So I wanted to get your expertise. But you're telling me before we start recording, you're going to be in the draft in New York? [00:01:34] Speaker A: Yes. [00:01:35] Speaker B: Any food spots you're looking to hit? [00:01:38] Speaker A: Where did I eat at last time? I was in Brooklyn for the McDonald's All American Games. Yeah, I just go to the bodegas, man. Like anything that didn't have a chain, I go. And then I ate in Harlem at the. What's the. The longest owned black restaurant. I forget the name. [00:01:57] Speaker B: I don't know. I'll be going for chicken parm every single time I'm in New York. [00:02:00] Speaker A: Chicken parm. [00:02:02] Speaker B: Chicken parm. There's a few spots. There's one like on. On. On near Times Square. I'll be honest, if you're getting the names, they all sound the same, you know. [00:02:10] Speaker A: So yeah, no, I went to. It was like. It's like historic. So I went out there and I ate some like chicken and waffles. That was really Good. But, man, I. I just want to hear the train tracks and. Yeah. New York experience. [00:02:23] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah. What are you most look looking forward to on draft night? It's gonna be your first job. [00:02:28] Speaker A: Yeah, this is my first draft in person. I'm looking forward to just the dominoes falling. Like, we know Cooper Flag is going number one. We assume Dylan Harper's going number two, and then, like, I think it's gonna be chaos, to be honest with you. And that's what I'm looking forward to. Like, it's exciting. Slash, I want to get it over with, you know, because, like, let's get it going. And at the same time, like, I just imagine this being my first time sitting in real time. I just imagine it's gonna be crazy as far as, like, the trades, because, you know, the NBA today is not what it used to be five years ago. Like, you know, you're on the clock, teams are rebuilding, teams giving up draft picks like crazy. I mean, Luka Doncic got traded. I still don't believe that, but he got traded, so basically, anything is possible. [00:03:16] Speaker B: Anything's possible, man. I want to get your thoughts. Obviously, we're going to talk Raptors in depth, but Ace Bailey, a lot of talk. We're recording this, obviously, a few days before the draft. What are your thoughts on him refusing to work out in Philly and kind of just the way. I don't know. I honestly, I have thoughts on it, but I want to get your thoughts on just seeing all the. All the news that came out about his agency and all that kind of stuff. [00:03:46] Speaker A: So I understand both sides of, like, the coin, you know, like, if I'm 18, I want to get as many opportunities that I can to. To make mistakes, to play through mistakes. I understand that I'm going to be playing X amount of minutes a game. I get that. But then Also, I'm not 18s. I'm a grown man. I understand that, you know, you can be in a position like Philadelphia and treat it like a basketball internship and get better. You playing alongside, you know, Paul George, who. Ace Bailey said he, you know, mimics his game after or one of his favorite players. You know, you're learning how to win because Philly has to win. They got way too much money allocated to guys. And at the same time, it's like, you know, I feel like there are 24 to 30. There could be 24 to 30 minutes a night for Ace Bailey if he, you know, buys in. And by the time that your contract. Excuse me, by the time you're up for, you know, your second contract. I think Paul George is, like, off the book, so everything could still work out. And personally, I don't feel like. I don't feel like he's the one. I don't feel like he's polished enough to. To. To do that. As far as, like, the move of, you know, turning workouts now, because if you look at it like Cooper flag situation is, they're not giving him the keys. He's gonna have to fit in, too. He's playing Anthony Davis. [00:05:07] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:05:07] Speaker A: And when Kyrie comes back. No, Kyrie is going to do so. And then like Dylan Harper, assuming he stays in San Antonio, like, he's playing alongside two other guys who need the ball in their hands on top of being win, bam. So it's like, again, I get it. You know, as agent standpoint, you want your. Your client to be in the best position to win financially, win individually your own goals. But at the same time, I think that just because you're in that situation, it's not a guarantee of everything is going to work out. So, excuse me, for example, like, Cam Thomas, like Cam Thomas, average 25. You know, we know he's gonna get you 20 every single night, but guess what? He's restricted free agent this year. So it's like, it's no guarantee. But again, I understand both sides of it, so we'll see what happens. [00:05:53] Speaker B: Yeah, it's very interesting for me, I just don't see. I know you guys had this debate a few podcasts ago about who should Philly select. I just don't see Ace a good fit just because of. I know Nick Nurse very well here in Toronto. That's not the type of player he likes to. Especially with all this drama that's been going on and refusing workouts. And I. I feel like. And they should go to a spot where I feel like the ball's in his hands, you know, like, go be the guy. That kind of stuff. Right where. But then also refusing Utah, which I feel like will be a perfect situation. I'm like, yeah. [00:06:24] Speaker A: I mean, Utah, come on now. They're starving for you start for Star. They've been tanking. It feels like forever, so. But you don't want to work out there. I mean, I don't know, man. We'll see what happens. I feel like, though, you know, correct me if I'm wrong, OG was young on that championship team. [00:06:43] Speaker B: Yeah. He didn't even play in that championship year. He was injured. [00:06:46] Speaker A: He was injured. Okay. Yeah, he did get hurt, but like, he leaned on and he was older, but nurse leaned on Fred Van Vliet got Fred paid. You know, OG did, you know, he earned his reps. And again, I'm not saying the same caliber player, but OG earned his reps and now OG's dumb rich in New York. And then if you look back, if you look back to like, all right, Kawhi Leonard, what was his role getting drafted by the Spurs? You know what I'm saying? Do the dirty work. He's rich, he owns half of la. It feels like, you know, so it's like it could work out if you, you know, do it right. But I don't know, man. We'll see what happens. [00:07:24] Speaker B: Yeah, we'll see what happened. Let's get to some Raptors talk. The Raptors are obviously sitting at the ninth pick right now. By the time this recording, they could have traded it. I don't know so much rumors, man. A lot of it I'm like, I don't believe because some of the packages don't really make sense. How would you describe as a guy that follows the draft so closely, the tier of players that are available around the range where the Raptors are drafting at number nine. [00:07:49] Speaker A: So, you know, if you look at tonight's game, game, you know, this is Thursday. Like the two best players for Oklahoma City were drafted, what, 10th, 11th, 12th, 13th. They weren't top five picks. So you kind of never know what you're going to get in a sense at the ninth pick. I feel like you can get a quality starter. And maybe, just maybe if Noah Isinge is more than an energy guy, let's see what he turns out to be be. But I feel like, you know, or, or maybe if Common Malawatch is there, maybe he's more than just a running dunk big. Maybe he has more game. You know, in scouting him, he played in the basketball Africa League and it wasn't just running and dunking. He was getting the ball in the post. He shot a lot of turnaround jumpers. He showed you he could move out outside on the perimeter defending. So maybe there's those two guys who are there, they strike me to meet to be if they're available or even a Derek Queen. I don't know those. They'll say, let's say those three guys, I feel like they may be able to be more than complimentary players if things work out or if I were to project somebody outside of the top five who I think that the Raptors could take, that could return more than just, you know, Role player, rotation guy. It would be one of those three. [00:09:06] Speaker B: I want to ask you, kind of going through the names you just mentioned, Malawatch, obviously on a Duke, a stacked team, especially featuring guys like Cooper, Flag Con Knippel, Tyrese Proctor, Sion James, we got a lot of guys that the man touches on that team. And I feel like his role was kind of reduced to this rim running, blocking shots, protecting the rim. Do you feel like there's more to his game to just that, or do you feel like you see that role being what he is in the NBA? [00:09:39] Speaker A: Initially, that's probably what his role is going to be. But again, depending on situation, you can grow into it. If Brooklyn takes him, they're going to give him more opportunities to do something besides, you know, run it, dunk, because they're in complete, complete rebuild mode. Whereas, you know, your, your Raptors guys got a lot of bread, you know, allocated to guys. So we might need you to just run and dunk until we figure things out. But I do think he does. He has the potential to do more. He, he has good touch. The free throw percentage for, you know, a big of his size. Like, it indicates that he does have the ability to stretch the floor. And he did play for the South Sudan national team in the Olympics. Like, he hit a few jumpers, he hit some threes. And like I said, if you could, you know, listeners, if you go to YouTube and you search, you know, his basketball Africa League is more than just running Duncan. So, you know, I think he, he is immediate impact is run, dunk, defend. But I do think that he, there is a chance he has a little bit more game than that. Would it be somebody that you just feature on the block, like a Jokic or an Embiid? I don't think so, but, you know, to switch it up. I think he has that ability to do more. [00:10:49] Speaker B: Do you think he's still there at nine when the Raptors are picket, if you had to guess right now. [00:10:55] Speaker A: So I think it comes down to where Charlotte does. And you know, the whispers are Charlotte really likes VJ Edgecombe. They really like Khan Canipple. I don't know what they're going to do with Mark Williams because they tried to trade that man. [00:11:07] Speaker B: That man gone. He gone soon. [00:11:09] Speaker A: You can't break up with somebody and then they still sleep on the couch. Like, that's crazy. Yeah. And then like, you know, Yusuf Nurkic is, you know, he's older, so. But at the same time, The Hornets have two picks in the 30s. Maybe they package those to move up, take another one. There's a lot of bigs in this draft, so maybe they get their big a little later. My philosophy of scouting is like, I feel like the running dunk guys, you kind of get them at various like stages in the draft. Like they're available. But I do think that there is an opportunity for my watch to be there at nine. [00:11:40] Speaker B: Interesting. Okay. Because obviously a lot of people link him to the Raptors, right? Because the, the Basketball Without Borders connection. Playing like giants of Africa, I think. I don't know if you play giants, but he's ball league obviously, that kind of stuff. Right? So be interesting. See, see if he's there and if the Raptors are, if the Raptors end up taking, if he is there at 9. But is there a name or two that you think like just screams like this is a Raptors pick? [00:12:07] Speaker A: I really think Noah Singer is a Raptors pick. [00:12:10] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:12:11] Speaker A: Now, you know, depending on who you ask and you know, you look at that, that balance sheet, you might need somebody who's going to contribute right away and at the same time, you know, you are wing heavy already in Toronto. But he is a rapper's pick because I feel like, and I don't know man, this might be a big statement but there is some like Pascal Siakam type stuff going on there. [00:12:33] Speaker B: I, I, I made that comp too when somebody asked me. [00:12:36] Speaker A: Okay. So I'm not tripping. So there is some like early stages, right. [00:12:41] Speaker B: Like running down. [00:12:42] Speaker A: He's effective and he's still raw, you know. And if you're thinking long term, like, you know, there's the RJ Barrett trade rumors obviously there's the, I've seen, you know, quickly trade rumors because he's making so much money. But if you find yourself in a situation where it's like, okay, maybe the timeline isn't what we think it is. We got some years to develop. I really like a singer there and I know you got a bunch of Fords, but he might be, I mean he's 18, he's super productive. He plays hard, he's still growing and he's a play finisher right now, but he can grab a rebound and push and like, you know, I've met his agent and his agent said he is at his worst. He's ever going to be like, the kid is special. [00:13:26] Speaker B: Interesting. And my problem with Noah is obviously, like you said, I think it'll take time. Right. Development wise, the Raptors are going to have to like, they have Alwash Shamshe who's still like two years away from two years away. But thinking about that situation, I'm thinking about where the Raptors are as an organization. Besides, contract is up in 2026, and obviously we've seen them in every single rumor right now. It makes me think personally that they're on the clock, that they need to show some progress since the last championship, since they drafted Scotty Barnes, and that they might not have time to draft the prospect like this. So my question is, like, do you see him being able to contribute maybe right away in the league? Or do you see this guy like spending a lot of time in the G League in this first year? [00:14:23] Speaker A: See, I think he can contribute right away because you don't have to run plays for him. And while he's not a shooter right now, like at all, he's gonna do. He's gonna like, you got mocbo, mobo, right? [00:14:35] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:14:35] Speaker A: And he is similar to Mobile, but he's like four years younger in a sense that like, if you just put him out there, it's gonna be plus basketball. So it's like he's a ways away from who he is going to be. But at the same time, I still feel like his just his motor, his talent, his skill level will, you know, allow him to contribute because he's going to rebound, he's going to finish plays. He tries to dunk, he's 190 and he's trying to dunk every single time he can get the ball. Now, he's not a super high flyer, but like, that level of toughness is there for him. So I. I really like him a lot. [00:15:10] Speaker B: Yeah, I think he's like three days younger than Cooper. Will be still 18 in the end of December when the NBA season starts. So. Hey, man, Noah Singe. I feel like I can see it. Raptors type of build. They love these like six, nine long. I think he's like six. He might have measured higher than that. [00:15:27] Speaker A: I think he was 6, 10 barefoot. [00:15:30] Speaker B: Amen. [00:15:31] Speaker A: And he can move. So I mean, if you look at it like from the standpoint of, you know, let's get as many six, eight, six, nine guys that can move as possible. I mean, you'll absolutely take it. [00:15:42] Speaker B: So, yeah, obviously we were talking about Ace, guys that are sliding in the draft. I don't think Ace is going to fall that that far to nine. But I'm also a huge fan of like guys like Jeremiah Fears potentially. And then say Ace does fall. Right. And the Pelicans end up picking him. Do you think I Don't know. I'm not asking you like about Fears. Any other names you see kind of in that maybe seven, eight, like the clear cut guys that are like, okay, this is the seven, this is the eight. Could you see them falling to tonight? [00:16:16] Speaker A: I. I don't understand it, but same time I'm not in charge. Some people may think Derek Queen is gonna fall. I don't think Fears is gonna fall. For everything that I heard people love him like he, he. I've been a fan of his from the jump, so I've had him mocked in my top seven all year. Like from the time he destroyed Arizona, you know, I got on the podcast with my brother and I was like, yo, that kid's a top five pick. Like his game just screams like he NBA potential, you know, star. [00:16:48] Speaker B: Now talking about Fears, right? [00:16:50] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. Jeremiah Fears. [00:16:51] Speaker B: I think you were one of the first people on him when I remember hearing about Fears. [00:16:54] Speaker A: So I mean, you know, I don't want too much, but you said it, not me. [00:16:57] Speaker B: I'll give you a credit. [00:16:58] Speaker A: Yeah, but I. If there is somebody that could fall. Like let's say for example, if Ace falls, that means probably like con canipple moves up. So. And then I think on the clock would be. I don't think Trey Jones makes it. Trey Johnson, excuse me, makes it past Utah. That doesn't make sense for them to, you know, pass on him. So then at 6, that's where it gets interesting. I think Washington likes Fears. I think that they like Ace too, but I think their Queen really, really fits what they're trying to do. So you have a choice between those three guys and then it's like from there, what do you do? The. The Pelicans probably takes whoever is available between Ace and Fears because the Pelicans don't need another center. They drafted Eve, Missy and they still got Zion too. That's another big. So then at 8, it's like, okay, what does Brooklyn do? So now if Queen is there at 9, I like Queen in Toronto and I was on another, you know, Raptors based podcast. I was like, hear me out. I know he had. I know he's not gonna block a lot of shots, but if you get the wings to buy in and they all have the talent to defend or they have the ability to defend, they have the physical tools. I know Ingram wasn't the best defender in New Orleans, but he's 6, 8 and he's long, right? We know Scotty, he's got all the tools to be a defender. If you Keep RJ Barrett. He's got the physical tools and then you gotta figure out what you're gonna do it quickly. But at the same time, like, you know, if you buy in, you buy in. And I feel like you can mirror what the Houston Rockets did. The Houston Rockets, like on paper, their best defensive rating, advanced numbers. Guy was like Shangoon in the playoffs and he didn't block a single shot, I don't think. And they played double big lineups at on top of that too. So it's like it would take a collective buying in. But like, offensively, I think that gives you a totally different dynamic with Queen there because he can grab rebounds and he create officer there. And it's almost like you got, you know, a, you know, store brand Jokic. So now you got between Queen, Barrett, Ingram and Barnes, you got five guys that can grab the ball off the glass and create offense. [00:19:16] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:19:16] Speaker A: And then if you run a dribble handoff with Queen, we know he's gonna win any switch because that dude is absolutely hard to guard. He's just really, really skilled. But, you know, maybe that's just me and 2K, you know, manager mode where, you know, stuff is, you know, pie in the sky. But I think that situation could work. It would just take a whole lot of buying in on defense. [00:19:37] Speaker B: Yeah, that's my issue. The defense is like. Because when I look at the Raptor situation, I'm like, it's a bunch of like, outside of Scotty, outside of maybe Yak, a bunch of like average at best defenders in the starting group quickly. RJ's not that great defensively. Grady Dick, Jacoby, Walters, obviously improvement. I think he's a solid defender, but I think it's too much pressure on Scotty. But I'll say is I think he's the best passer in this class. At least that Queen, at least in like this range, you could maybe say Wolf might be. Might be up there. I feel for him. At least for. For bigs, I'm talking about. And vibes wise, I'll tell you this. I actually asked him a question at. At the combine. And he's funny, I'll give you that. I'll give him that. Because. But the. The thing too is I asked him like, what do you. What do you know about Toronto? What do you know about the city? He's like, I heard the taxes are bad. So right away I'm like, this guy, like, he would fit into what the Raptors culture is building. Like, just like the chemistry, like these young cats that Are like coming up together, like the Jamal sheds and just Kobe Walters, that kind. I feel like he'd fit perfectly in that group. Um, and I know Messiah, I think went up to him at the lottery. Just said, what up to him? I think so. Messiah. Messiah knows him pretty well. [00:20:59] Speaker A: So I'm a huge fan of his and I get the concerns. But it's like if you dig in and like watch his film, like, you know, he does little sneaky stuff, like you try to post him, he'll pull the chair or, you know, he's got really good hands in space. I think he's going to be really good. I think people are kind of overthinking it because he's on a little chubby side. He wear a long sleeve shirt and the mouthpiece is out. But like, as far as, you know, a basketball player, I think he's is offensively talented as anybody. And like, I would, you know, tell people, like, don't pay attention to his combine numbers. Like that dude is. He's a basketball player. He's not a combine guy. [00:21:38] Speaker B: I was about to say those combine numbers a little. [00:21:40] Speaker A: They were terrible. [00:21:42] Speaker B: I was like, I was watching in person, I was telling somebody this and I was trying to get a recording of him shooting. [00:21:48] Speaker A: Yeah, he missed. A bunch of. You were sitting next to me. [00:21:51] Speaker B: I was like, I can't record this because I don't want to make the brother look bad, you know, Because I was like, I can't put this out there. But my question is the shooting we're talking about. He has good touch, close to the rim, free throws. I think he was shooting like around 76, 77%. Do you think like the shooting could be something that he adds the mechanics kind of look kind of. I don't know. I don't know. In person, watching on tv, I'd be like, hey, that doesn't look bad. But then watching up close, I'm like, it's kind of like, kind of funky in a way. What are your thoughts on just the shooting potential? Is it there? [00:22:22] Speaker A: I think it's there. And I think like the last five, six games of the season, he started to shoot more threes. He strikes me as a dude as like, you know, I don't need to shoot these threes. Like, these dudes can't guard me. And for, you know, college basketball is kind of weird. They were like guarding him on the perimeter and he's so skilled that he was like blowing by guys getting dunks at, you know, 6, 10, 2, 5, 0, which sounds crazy. Right. Seeing him in person shoot his jumper was really, really flat. He was shooting a lot of bricks. [00:22:52] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:22:53] Speaker A: But I just don't think he took the combine seriously because, like, I just don't think that's his, that's not his atmosphere, I think. But also at the same time, you know, workout videos, workout video. But somebody in his camp just dropped a workout video and he was knocking down threes. [00:23:06] Speaker B: Okay. [00:23:06] Speaker A: I think the potential is there. [00:23:08] Speaker B: I love the propaganda. [00:23:09] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah. You got to put the propaganda out this time, man. Have to. [00:23:12] Speaker B: Yeah. Like you mentioned at the end of this, I think in the tournament he was shooting the ball pretty well, like around end of March. [00:23:18] Speaker A: Two, one game. [00:23:19] Speaker B: Yeah. But then you look at, I don't think he had his first three until December against Purdue. Hit two of that and then doesn't hit a three again until the end of March against Michigan. I'm like, Or Michigan State, one of those two teams. And I'm like, damn. So like. But then like you said in a game in the tournament, teams are leaving him wide open. He's like, I don't care, I'll shoot it. Despite not shooting at all against Florida. Yeah. [00:23:43] Speaker A: You know, so I, I'm, I'm just buying his talent. Like that shot he hit against Colorado State, that is the, that's the shot that an eight year veteran takes and makes that particular move in general. So. [00:23:58] Speaker B: And I love the mentality, the mentality. Give me the ball. [00:24:01] Speaker A: Like, what are we doing? What player are you drawing up? Give me the ball. And you saw where he caught the ball at. That's at the top of the key. Yeah, that wasn't like, give me the ball on the block. He can score on the block, but I just feel like he's so talented offensively and is very good passer. I think, like, you know, you have to sit. It would take a collective team buying in if we're going to lock in on defense. And a part of me thinks that, you know, they wouldn't do it, but at the same time, like, look at the Rockets. Jalen Green was never known as a defender. He was on the floor a lot, played a lot of minutes. Yes, you have Amin Thompson. Yes. You have Dylan Brooks. Yes. Fred defends. But like, those young guys had to buy in because, you know, that's what the coach demanded. So I think it's possible. Will you get the guys to do it? Is, you know, always another story. [00:24:47] Speaker B: Yeah. I'll be honest, I was kind of iffy on Queen. I feel like you kind of sold Me on him, man. [00:24:51] Speaker A: You like the second or third person. [00:24:52] Speaker B: And I was, man, I'll be honest. I. The shooting kind of scared me, to be honest. So, um, but. And then the buy in, when you're talking about the buy in, I think with the way the Raptors are going under Darko, I think they could get that buy in, especially from the young guys. So keep in mind, I think that's a, that's a good point to, to think about. I want to ask you about maybe six players kind of in the Raptors range. I want to get your ranking on these guys. Derrick Queen, Kamal Moloch, Carter Bryant, who's shout out to his agency, the propaganda. I don't know where, where the hell he came up. [00:25:27] Speaker A: A.C. had his shirt, his shirt button way to the top at the combine. [00:25:32] Speaker B: So yeah, Derek Queen, come on model, watch. Carter Bryant, Noah Singe, Kasperis Yakachonis, who I've watched quite a bit, quite a lot because of Will Riley. Those six guys. Can you give me your ranking on those six for the Raptors pick? [00:25:46] Speaker A: For the Raptors pick at nine if those guys are available. I'm still going to ride with Queen, so I'm going to go queen. Malawatch said 6 guys or 5? [00:26:02] Speaker B: 6 guys. Carter Bryant and Conspiras left. [00:26:07] Speaker A: So you said I'm gonna put Carter Bryant for last. [00:26:11] Speaker B: Okay. [00:26:12] Speaker A: And I put Casparis up because I do think I'm not as high on Yakuchonas as a lead guard. But in that situation, Toronto, it worked because you got other ball handlers. If he's my only ball handler, I feel like I'm in trouble. [00:26:27] Speaker B: Yeah, I agree. I agree. [00:26:29] Speaker A: Especially watching he's like, you know, my half court ball handler. Get guys set up. I do think he'll be a better shooter then. I'm okay with that. But I guess to get to the meat of that, I'm a little lower on Carter Bryant. [00:26:44] Speaker B: Tell me. [00:26:46] Speaker A: So here's the thing about him. I think 80 of his shots are assisted. Right. So ultimately again, I, I get it. The defense, I get the measurements. I'm not. I mean measurements are important, but it's basketball, not bodybuilding. Right. Like we've seen guys yolked up out of this world and you just yoked up. It is, I mean, you know, muscles for nothing. Muscles for nothing. You know that's from. I forgot what movie that was. I forget muscles for nothing. And I'm not saying he's a bad player. I'm just a little lower on, you know, so for Example, let me tell you why. He's got the reputation of a defender. I believe he did a good job on Trey Johnson, and that bodes extremely well. Trey Johnson at the SEC in the score. But I saw him have an opportunity to guard Cooper Flag. Cooper Flag got everything he wanted, when he wanted, how he wanted on him. And, you know, whoever's listening, like, oh, man, that's Cooper Flag. He's the number one pick. I get it. But, you know, we talking about rising to the competition. And in that first half, it was. I think he had four buckets on Carter Bryant. Second half, it was like, okay, you tried to adjust. Now I'm gonna show you how I can make plays. So he was beating him off the dribble. Forced to help. He found my watch on like two or two or three lives. Like, he got what he wanted. And again, that's Cooper flag. So maybe we'll give him a pass for that. And then. But, you know, I, as a film watcher, studier, that I try to be like, I get on synergy and I believe, like, and pick and roll team shot like 45 on him in pick and roll. And you watch his pick and roll tape, it's like, he's not engaged with all those muscles, all that athleticism, all that length. He's giving guys gap. Maybe that's what the coach told him to do. But when you give guys gap, you allowed yourself to get screened. So he gets screened a lot. I saw him play byu. Jaeger Demon was getting to the basket on him. Like, why are you not crowding Jaeger Demon, who I think has an average handle and who definitely doesn't even want to go to the basket because, you know, I don't think he's the most assertive person. And it was like two or three drives where he got beat by Jaeger Demi. So. And. And it's not necessarily a knock on Carter Bryant. I hope these people don't come looking for me. But I just don't understand. There's. There's this huge gap between him and Drake Powell, right? When you watch Drake Powell's defensive film, he's crowding guys. He. His defense looks like, his defensive intensity looks like. Looks like what we about to see in the next hour with Oklahoma City. He's pressuring guys out the half court. You know, he's got a massive wingspan too, but he's using it. He's not dying on screens. He's got active hands in the pick and roll. So then somebody could be like, well, you know, the defensive Counting stats for Carter Bryant were better, but it was like 0.5 blocks. Stocks, right? That's a very small number for guys who didn't play a lot of minutes between the two of them. I want to say, man, I really sound like a hater, but I want to say that Carter Bryant had like three blocks against Akron in the tournament. Like that definitely boost. And again, I'm not saying he's not a good defender. I just don't know if He's a top 10 pick for me. And like. Yeah. So in pick and roll I got my numbers up. Carter Bryant, defender shot 44 against him. They shot 32% against Drake Powell. And Drake Powell played out of position. He played the four. Now I guess the appeal is that Bryant is naturally stronger. I think he should be able to guard two, three and four, whereas Drake Powell probably can guard one through three. Where you put that value at, I guess that's in the eye of the beholder. I just don't think there's a huge gap between the two is what I'm saying. [00:30:42] Speaker B: I'm with you because I feel like a lot of the Carter Bryant talk, I was looking through the stats. So I think he took more than nine shots like once all year. [00:30:50] Speaker A: And he shot 10 against Duke and he was like 2 for 10. [00:30:53] Speaker B: Yeah. And that was probably the most shots he took all season. So I'm kind of confused about the hype, especially with the three point shooting he does like he shoots it at. I forgot what clip. But it's, it's, it's low volume. Like he's shooting 2.8 threes a game. [00:31:07] Speaker A: And his high school volume was. He was like 27% in high school from 3. And like you again, the numbers say on jump shots he shot 38, which is good, but so did Drake Powell. [00:31:19] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:31:19] Speaker A: You know, like off the catch. DRAKE Powell shot 40. And you got to think UNC was like in shambles all year. Like they were playing. That was terrible basketball. They started a six foot point guard, 20. He was, I'm, you know, lying. But R.J. davis was old. You know, they had no center. Yeah, the center was 6, 8. Like they were in shambles. Oh, he had to play the four. [00:31:42] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:31:43] Speaker A: So like I just don't think there is a huge gap. And then like to sum it all up, like if you watch their high school eybl, Drake Powell can hoop. And this is, this is just my personal thing. There's can you hoop and can you play basketball? Right. Can you hoop? Is when everything falls apart. Can you go do something? I don't know if Carter Bryant can hoop. And my thinking is as a top 10 pick. Can you hoop now? Guys, learn how to hoop. Perfect example. Your former Toronto Raptor OG Ana, he learned how to hoop. He averaged 18 this last year. He had to though, because guess what? Okay, we figured out you can shoot. Now we gotta chase you off the line, you know, or there's five seconds left. You can't keep throwing these grenades back to these point guards. Like you gotta create something. I don't know if Carter Bryant, he is almost to me like an in theory guy. Like in theory it works. You know, like Patrick Williams is in theory guy or the measurements are good, you know, I see this, I see that maybe we can do something. So that's why I'm lower on him. I probably am one of the few people. But again, Carter Brian's people may he got Canadian people. I hope he makes all the money in the world. I'm not trying to hate. I just. I just got questions, man. [00:32:59] Speaker B: I was gonna say Drake Powell. People gotta hire you, man. [00:33:01] Speaker A: Man. Hey, man, I put. Put my number at the end of this podcast. Make it work. [00:33:07] Speaker B: I want to move over to some of the Canadians now in the draft. We kind of talked about. Last question. Just about the Raptors. Do you expect them to go for like a swing for upside or like for more of a ready NBA player? [00:33:20] Speaker A: I think their timeline is fake. You should go for upside now. I. Yeah, yeah, you should still go for upside because the east is wide open. If everybody is healthy, you should still be in the mix for a play in. But you could also, I think get a young guy opportunity to, you know, get meaningful minutes on the spot. Health is going to be their main issue. And shooting. They weren't a good shooting team last year. You got one guy who you start who were like, you know what? Absolutely chase him off the line. Which is probably quickly. Right. But how many games did Quickly and Scotty Barnes play together? [00:34:00] Speaker B: Not many. [00:34:01] Speaker A: How many games? You know, you got nothing from Ingram. So there's going to be a learning curve. It's just I still think you should draft for development. That's not necessarily, you know, win now because even the win now guys are wings. You know, Nick Clifford is 20, 23. [00:34:17] Speaker B: Yep. [00:34:17] Speaker A: Cedric Coward is older. You know, so it's like there you still have a log jam of wings. I rather just go with the toolsy guy who could play the four in a single or I just go with a five and then we have our. You Know replacement for Jakob Per. If you don't trade him right away, I go with Malaw there. So I still think you can get a young guy, develop him and still win. [00:34:41] Speaker B: Yeah. And who do you have mock to. [00:34:43] Speaker A: To go to the Raptors right now? I have. I had a Senate going number nine Sen. Toronto. Yeah. That wasn't because you, you know, messaged me like I've had him there for a while, so. [00:34:55] Speaker B: Dope. Okay, let's talk about Canadians. Will Riley, Ryan Nemar. Let's start with Will. Just got the green room invite. Somebody I've been following for quite a while. I feel like one of the best like maybe scorers we've seen coming out of Canada recent memory. But I feel like he had kind of like an up and down season at Illinois. Started off really hot. Most points scored by a freshman at 30. Man, 30 big game to start off. And then had a shooting slump I think from like December on until January. Then had a really good end to his college season. What were your thoughts just on Will's college season at Illinois? [00:35:41] Speaker A: I was first introduced to, not him personally, but the player Will Riley at Basketball Without Borders last year. [00:35:49] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:35:50] Speaker A: Oh man, I got this Canadian kid. Man, he's a bucket. He's a bucket. And he was, he was good. He shot the ball well. I think ultimately he might be more of a scorer than a shooter in a sense. Yeah. If don't. I'm explaining so like, you know, a shooter is, you know, if I play five minutes and I get two shots up, I'm. You expect me to make, you know, shots. Whereas a score may need a rhythm for the ball to go in, but also a score is more than just standing there and shooting jumpers or even just shooting jumpers in general. So him, Will Riley getting a green room invite was kind of surprising to me considering like the season that he had. Again, he came in with the reputation as a shooter. I believe he shot like 32%, maybe sub 40 from the field. But he also showed me that he can do more than just shoot. So he ran some pick and roll show. Good playmaking too. My brother's real tapped in on brother Raphael. He's real tapped in and he said that Will Riley is destroying people in workouts. [00:36:57] Speaker B: Yep. [00:37:00] Speaker A: That's more important to some people. And if he's destroying people, it means he's scoring, not just shooting the basketball. You know what I'm saying? Not just. He's creating shots for himself is what I'm trying to say. [00:37:12] Speaker B: Yes. [00:37:13] Speaker A: So initially I was surprised that he got a green room invite and then. But at the same time, like, you know, he's got good size. I do think he'll be a better shooter. I just. My biggest concern is like just the frame he is. He's a skinny dude and he's got like a skinny frame. But you know, if you play strong, I think, you know, that's, that's more important to me. Like we talked about like all that muscle for nothing, like playing strong and he does that. So I think he's going to be fine. To be interesting where he goes. I've had, I have him in my late 20s just because like the jump shot is I, I wish he was a better shooter. And it looks like the numbers even from high school say that he might just be an average shooter instead of like a knockdown shooter. [00:38:02] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:38:03] Speaker A: At least right now. [00:38:03] Speaker B: Yeah. Well's an interesting case, I think to the green room invite from what I'm hearing is like a lot of teams in the late lotteries, maybe from 11 till mid 20s are all interested. So I think that's where it's like a lot of teams really like the upside, the positional size. I think that's the word I've heard a lot, A lot of teams just believe that. And skinny. He's very skinny. Things like 189 at the combine. But he gained, so he gained a lot of pounds at Illinois. And from what I've been hearing, I think he's putting on like he's eating like 6,000. He's having like 6,000 calories a day. So like he's, and he's a hard worker from what I know, just from people that, that I know that are really close to him. And I'm not surprised he's killing guys in workouts because I do think like he's a guy that the, the way he was played at at Illinois wasn't really suitable to his style of play. I think there's some hidden playmaking, but Illinois kind of had him more of like this off ball kind of guy that sometimes would run the pick and roll. I think him and Thomas left had some really good chemistry going on. But. And I think that's kind of like he was kind of adjusting to that role, but I think he kind of showed like at the end of the season that he could play that off ball role in certain situations. So. Yeah. But I do think like he's maybe in these workouts, I think he's probably showing more of like this on ball role that he could Be this facilitator and make decisions off the pick and roll and that kind of stuff. So that's kind of what I've been hearing, kind of what I know just about Will in general. And when you play, I think he had, like, a crazy game in Indiana where He had, like, 45 points. [00:39:51] Speaker A: He can light it up. So, again, even if he's just. Even if he's more of a score than a shooter at six, eight, you absolutely take that. [00:40:00] Speaker B: Yeah. NBA comparison. You have any. Anybody? I've heard. I heard. I've heard everything I've heard. I'm like, I don't see it. Someone said Keyshawn George earlier in the year. That's another Swiss Canadian guy that I follow really closely. [00:40:12] Speaker A: Keeshan is more of a toolsy guy. [00:40:14] Speaker B: Yeah. More of a passer, I feel like. Yeah. So Keyshawn, I feel like he's still starting to add that scoring back to his. To his plate. But, yeah, any comparisons you see for. [00:40:24] Speaker A: Will put me on the spot. I can't think of one off the top of my head. I'll think about it as we. We keep going, but I don't know, man. [00:40:35] Speaker B: He's tough. I feel like he's a unicorn, honestly. Like, I haven't really seen a player like him. We'll come back to it. We don't have to talk about it now. But what's his upside to you? When you. When you look at Will, this. He's growing, too. I think he's gonna end up being, like, 6, 10. He had, like, he. He ended up being, like, 6 foot 9, barefoot at the combine. [00:40:56] Speaker A: Interesting. [00:40:57] Speaker B: So he's. I think teams are seeing that, and they're like, oh, my God, maybe it's. [00:41:02] Speaker A: Not a good comparison. We remember Kevin Martin. [00:41:05] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:41:05] Speaker A: Kevin Martin was just. You run a play for him, and if he got to his spot, it was gonna go in. [00:41:11] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:41:11] Speaker A: Then he offered just enough playmaking to keep you honest. But at the same time, Kevin Martin was a free. He was the. He was one of the OG Free throw merchants. [00:41:20] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:41:22] Speaker A: So maybe not Kevin Martin, but at the same time, like, that same frame, I believe Kevin Martin was, what, 6, 5, 1 80? And, you know, he averaged 25 quite a few times, so maybe that's the kind of score that he is. But I think if he does fall to the 20s, like, I haven't going to Boston, because Boston, I feel like, needs, you know, wings with, you know, Tatum going down, and then some of the wings they've drafted, you know, obviously they've been Playing for. Well, they've been making deep playoff runs, so there hasn't been minutes, but now there are minutes, and they're gonna have to get some guys, you know, under the cat. I think Boston would be a good situation for him because he would be able to do more than just stand in the corner and shoot. You could see him, you know, as a scorer who could, you know, make some plays as well, so. But nah, he's. He's. He's somebody that is. My affinity for him has been like his shooting, it's been up and down. [00:42:20] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:42:21] Speaker A: You know, But I do see success for him, though. [00:42:23] Speaker B: Yeah. I do think, like, the shooting could come to me. Like, I'm more impressed because, like, the fact that you can score off the dribble, all that kind of stuff. I'm like the standstill catch and shoot stuff. I'm like. That can. That can be lab work, right. Where you just repetition, like being in the gym, that kind of stuff. So that's what makes me kind of hopeful to honestly say, like, he could be one of the, like, the next great Canadian players that we've seen in recent memory. I'm honestly kind of biased, too, because it's Canadian, you know, like, this is a Canadian basketball show, so that's a little biased for me, but I could see it. Obviously, you named Boston. Any other teams that you could see him kind of fitting well with where. I know Brooklyn has a bunch of picks. I doubt they keep all. All those picks in the first round, but, yeah, I feel like a place where he can just go work on his game and any other spots that. That you see maybe that could fit for. For will that kind of need that type of score, and that will give him time to develop. [00:43:27] Speaker A: So stay away from Oklahoma City. [00:43:30] Speaker B: Yeah. And he's going to be stuck there, man. I hope. I hope that team does not even look at him because it'll be hard to crack minutes on that team. [00:43:40] Speaker A: But you know what? At 21 at Utah, I think that'd be a good spot for him because, you know, who knows what they're going to do with Larry Mark in the situation. You hear they're trying to trade John Collins, and if I'm a wing and I see all I got ahead of me is Cody Williams, I'm like, I'll take that challenge, you know, because he didn't have a good season last year, so. And you can, you know, you could. Yeah, freedom. So Utah looks nice. The patience just traded out to who? They trade that pick to New Orleans, New Orleans. [00:44:16] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:44:16] Speaker A: So maybe that's a package for something else going on. But I, I think, I think he is. I wouldn't be mad at him in Miami, to be honest with you. [00:44:25] Speaker B: Yeah. Especially putting him through the system, where to put on the muscle, all that kind of stuff. I think Miami would be a good landing spot. You mentioned Utah. Ace doesn't want it. Will, man, go get buckets over there, man. [00:44:37] Speaker A: Look, man, that's, that's the team you, when you create a player on 2K and then like I'm gonna get all these shots out here. Yeah, right. [00:44:47] Speaker B: Moving on from Will Ryan Nemhardt, I feel like his buzz has started to grow since like the combine played really well there. I know you watched him in person. You have him, I believe, 42 on your big board. Feel like that's probably the highest I've seen, honestly. What makes him a second round pick in your eyes? [00:45:07] Speaker A: It's just purely size. Like he isn't a big guy but. And you know the NBA will or people will tell you the NBA is trending away from smaller guards. But you know, T.J. mcConnell was out there hooping and he shoots, you know, his shot chart is all inside the paint for the most part. Yeah, I think, I think Ryan is just, he's like an eight year pro, you know, like he can pass, he can make plays, he can steady your second unit and you know you need that. There's always like shout out to Rick Carlisle. He all. He. Rick Carlisle is the small guard whisperer from his days in, in Dallas. Like, you know, J.J. bare got paid, like he figures it out and I just, I feel like, you know, in the right situation, I think he could be a high level backup point guard. And if you're a team that's, you know, you need play making in your second unit, especially a team with depth because you know the league is kind of getting away from that super six man role. But a team with depth, like, what more could you ask for? So I, I'm buying. I thought he played extremely well. Like I said, size is going to be his biggest issue. But at the same time, like, I mean look at Scotty Pippen Jr. He started when he started in the playoffs, even when before job went down, like he was starting games. And you know, he knows his role, he picks up full court, he runs the offense. Like there's just, there's room for guys like that. And then realistically, like I got him going to Sacramento, like he might start for Sacramento. They don't have a point guard. [00:46:45] Speaker B: Hey, that'd be a good fit. [00:46:48] Speaker A: Like he could legit start from day one. [00:46:51] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:46:51] Speaker A: And get all the reps because they don't have a point guard right now. And especially if they do, what they should do is just blow the team up. Like, that's ample opportunity right there. So. [00:47:03] Speaker B: Yeah, Ryan led the league, led the NCAA, excuse me, in assist 9.8 this past year. And I, I definitely think he's a second round pick. I think a team that just needs a guy that knows how to make the right reads. [00:47:17] Speaker A: We. We would take him in Dallas. He just let me know and I pick him up from the airport because we don't have a point guard at all. [00:47:23] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:47:24] Speaker A: You know, and it's like on a team where like, you know, if Kyrie's out and for some time shout out to Spencer Dinwiddie, but he's trying to score, but we don't need him to score when we got Anthony Davis. I don't need Anthony Davis dripping the ball off the court. That's too many miles on him. [00:47:43] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:47:44] Speaker A: So I, I think Dallas, you know, they're trying to trade up to get into the first round on top of the first pick that they have, but, you know, if they end up landing in the second round and he's there, I, I think they would take it because like I said, need a point guard, needs somebody on the cheap deal and situation may work out for him. [00:48:04] Speaker B: Yeah, I, from what I know, I think he's working out for about like 15, 17 teams in this draft cycle. So he's going through it all, traveling city to city, journeyman. And I don't know, I talked to somebody and he was telling me like, he could have been better than Nemhard Andrew if he had the size. If he had the size, that's the biggest thing. Right. But outside of just size, I think he's. If you're just excluding that, I think he's the best playmaker in this draft. But yeah, I think if you're watching Andrew and these and these playoffs and then you at the combine and you're watching Ryan, very similar. Just the mannerisms they move. And I think a team might be like, hey, we messed up. Like, Andrew Nemahard probably goes top 10 in, in that draft in 2022. That. And now you're like, you got another one in Ryan. And you're like, do I want to look dumb again passing up on this guy in the second round if he's available to me late in the second round. So. But I'm Asking, do you, like, you mentioned a bunch of teams. Do you feel like there's. There's a place for him in the NBA despite being like 6 foot? Exactly 6 foot? I think I do. [00:49:18] Speaker A: I do think there's a place for him. And it's like, like I said, it. It gets tricky in the playoffs the deeper you go. Obviously, if you run into an Oklahoma City, like, they play big guards, but at the same time, and I, you know, when I have these discussions with people or, you know, my brother, like Mike Conley starts for Minnesota. He's like 38. He's definitely not the athlete that he was. And really, Mike Conley's biggest, I guess you could say flaw right now is that he just can't shoot the ball like he used to. I mean, he still defends. Like, when you're a small guard, you got to be a heady defender. You got to be scrappy. You got to know when to foul. You know, you gotta. Shouldn't. They're gonna let you get away with some hacking out there, and you just got to take advantage of it. I mean, again, talking to, Talking to Canada. Kyle Lowry. Six foot. [00:50:08] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:50:09] Speaker A: You know, so I don't. The. The small guard isn't a dinosaur. You know, you just got to be able to play the game within the rules that they allow you to play. You got to go out there and, you know, put on. You got to go out there and be physical. You got to pick up full court. Like, I, I feel like he's going to be fine. And again, when you do a redraft, it's like, oh, shoot, this guy played eight years in the NBA. He played 10 years in the NBA at six foot. [00:50:38] Speaker B: Yeah. It'll be interesting. Like, you mentioned Kyle Lowry, Fred Van Vliet, Jamal Shed just now, obviously smaller guys. So the Raptors have done it. The Raptors also, from what I know, they worked out Ryan Nemhard not too long ago, another guy they've also worked out. I wanted to get your thoughts on if. I don't know if you've watched him much. Jamil Telfer, Butler guy kind of been. I feel like a fringe NBA guy. Played all five years there. What do you know about him? Have you watched him at Butler? But he's also kind of like built like a Luke Dort. If you, if you see the size on him. [00:51:13] Speaker A: I didn't want to go with Canadian on Canadian, but he's built like Lou Dort or even Dylan Brooks. He's got, he's six, seven and you know if you look at Dylan Brooks again, I'm sure, you know, but Dylan Brooks was a scorer at Oregon, and now he's. He's a villain and he's accepted his role, but, like, that's what he is. He plays tough defense and he has enough scoring to where, you know, you just can't. I mean, outside of that one year in Memphis where he was talking to LeBron and then like, he. He didn't lean into his villain. Villainry, if that's the word. He didn't lean into it like he should have and it got in his head and he was missing shots, but, like, he plays hard, he defends. I feel like that's what Jamil Telford's role. He should copy that exact blueprint. He's probably going to get a two way or a two way guy. He's going to get a summer league invite. Guard somebody, full court. He shot, what, 40 on catch and shoot jumpers, I believe, this last year. So he can shoot the ball. Guard, guard somebody, full court, you know, like, that's. That's where these guys, the fringe guys, you got to make your chops on defense and making shots, and then from there, you know, you find yourself in a situation where you're playing minutes. Yeah. [00:52:26] Speaker B: My guy, James, I can't thank you enough for jumping on, going through the Canadiens, going through the Raptors, options at number nine. My guy, I want to ask you, you got a draft night suit? Are you wearing a suit that look like, what you gonna be wearing? [00:52:43] Speaker A: I don't. I gotta go shopping, man. [00:52:45] Speaker B: Shopping? Shirts. [00:52:46] Speaker A: Yeah, I wear T shirts every day. [00:52:48] Speaker B: I wore a suit last time, so I'm like, I might do it again. [00:52:51] Speaker A: Hey, so you. So tell me about that. You wore a. [00:52:54] Speaker B: Like, I wear a suit, man. Just because I don't know what it was. I was like, you know what? Let me. I've been hearing everyone's wearing suits, so I just got to. I want to look the part with all these prospects looking flat. I want to feel like I'm getting drafted too, you know? [00:53:05] Speaker A: See, the problem is, man, I can't. I haven't worn a suit in a very long time, and I'm. I'm definitely a sneaker dude, so. [00:53:11] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:53:12] Speaker A: But I don't want to wear, like, those. Like, you know, I wear a suit with sneakers, guys. Like, I want to wear my. My Jordan threes or something, so I don't know. And then, like, I got to get a suit that fits. Yeah, that's kind of hard to do within the next couple Days. [00:53:25] Speaker B: I said, you got. You might have some time. Maybe it's too late. But anyway, I feel like you'll probably bring some like, turtleneck or something. Like. [00:53:33] Speaker A: Yeah, you got a turtleneck. Ah, yeah, yeah, I was thinking about that, man. He put me on the spot. Now I gotta go get it. [00:53:41] Speaker B: My guy can't thank you enough. This was fun. I appreciate you and just the insight. The. Like I said, I listen to you guys all the time, man. All. Like when I tell you, like, if you go through my whole Spotify, you're gonna be like, this brother is like every episode, man. So as I. When I followed you on Twitter, I'm like, I gotta tap into this guy. And I'm excited just to have you on and be able to get your expertise and your knowledge on a lot of these prospects. [00:54:07] Speaker A: So I appreciate it, Appreciate you for having me on. I want to come back because, you know, you guys got something cooking. I seen a young boy out there on the. On the Grady Twitter footage that's supposed to be the machine. Yeah, shoot. Y' all got a guy, Jordan Charles, man, I really like his game, man. [00:54:25] Speaker B: Watching my basketball borders. [00:54:26] Speaker A: Yeah, man, he was like quiet as Kevin. He was probably the second best player there. [00:54:31] Speaker B: Yeah, him. Who else? TJ Wall, Bucket getter size. Like, I think he just took a lot of bad shots, but he hit a lot of shots like he was one of those guys promised in the land. Do another guy. Some Canadian talent coming up, man. Jordan Charles just now about to see if he makes the final rosters for the FIBA Unite World Cup. He's going to be out there in Switzerland. So I. I was just recently at the camp, just watching, doing some stuff there. So that. That will actually be the next podcast previewing the FIBA Unite World cup on Canada. So James, where can people find you if they want to tap in and see on Twitter? [00:55:09] Speaker A: It'll always be Twitter to me, but it's at Draft Junkie James. I, you know, you. You add me, I'll probably respond because, yeah, you know, I enjoy talking basketball. People didn't feel like work, so just, you know, talking the game. [00:55:25] Speaker B: So tap in with my guy James at Draft Junkie James on Twitter and tap into NBA big board, man. That's the podcast I listen to for draft stuff. They do top tier content and yeah, my guy James, thank you so much. This has been the Canadian basketball show, your go to spot for the latest news stories and analysis on Canadian basketball. It's been my boy James and me. We out.